Taking a look at Monzon's six best wins

Funny but the best competition in the World throughout the 70s came from Latin America Duran monzon Arguello olivarez Galindez Monzon Valdez Cuevas Napoles Cervantes Loche Benitez Duran De Jesus Escalera Arguello Limon Arguello Lopez Jofre Pedroza Gomez Pintor Zarate Zamora Olivares Canto. The World Champions! ****in top to bottom. And most came out of the 60s. And of course Bennie says he won. Then any draw on U.S is home cooking for the American hey? Get real man. Take yr weakass argument and jam it up yr ass with the picture of Hagler

 

So was Leonard *******. And had fought once poorly in 5 yrs. And still beat Hagler who was younger than Monzon when he lost vs Carlos retiring. Monzon fought more during his 7 yr reign with nontitlers too and finished against a guy destroying the rest of the division. Meanwhile , Hagler fought 3 in a row non middleweight s 4 out of last 6 were non middleweight and he had trouble with 3 of them. Not including Hearns. Monzon destroyed the great Napoles. Duran lost barely to Hagler in US (home cookin for MARVIN?) Was takin to hell by Mugabi who got stopped in 3 his next fight vs a poor fighte. Then Hagler loses to a retired welterweight who hadn't fought in years.

 

I don't think this is a bad thread by any stretch. We're here to debate, Mendoza has made his case ... so let's debate it. Nobody has a spotless record, even the guys with zero losses. Maybe Monzon wasnt as good as people automatically assume?

 

Good read Mendoza, thanks for posting. I have a hard time seeing Monzon deal with the jab workrate power skillset and granite chin of Golovkin. Golovkin in his prime would have been too much, and has a great chance of stopping another rose tinted legend

In ten twenty years time when were all old men, we'll be talking about Golovkin in the same way as the old timers of today talk about the best of their era

 

You have no idea what his opponents in Argentino were like heigthwise. So being tall means you are no good or have an unfair advantage then eh? So Spinks. Foster Ali Robinson Klits Wilder arguello cervantes zarate etc were all talentless just unfairly advantaged. Ok so from now on only heigth even fighters and fights count. And like I said and you never answered....because Duran lost a close dec hagler got home cooking . just like Monzon vs Briscoe 1.

 

Only if the rose-tinted spectacles are replaced with welding goggles (and we perhaps wear noise cancelling headphones, playing the mantra "Golovkin really was a Great - You want to believe!!" over and over).

 

In other words Monzon?

 

Yeah, I mean come on, why would anyone give Greb credit for beating Walker? Walker's best days were at welterweight.

His silly exercise could be applied to literally every great fighter that ever lived.

 

Personally I have a hard time being impressed by any fighter who would rather rack up title defenses than move up in weight to face bigger challenges

 

Imagine if Michael spinks or Bob Foster had never fought at heavyweight. How different would their legacies be?

 

I think Hearns' rating, at both Welterweight and Light Middleweight, would have to take a massive hit.

WW Cuevas is only listed as being 5' 8", with a 70" reach; Duran even smaller at LMW.

These Hearns victories couldn't possibly count because of these dimensions - Obviously.