BREAKING — Mia "ST. JUICE" St. John Admits To Using PEDs In 20 Fights (!)

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only idealistic numpties don’t wanna see this esp re their own fav boxer.I mean look at all the denial around Canelo lol,taking on the expected tainted meat story when said guy put on so much extra lean muscle mass which is what Clenbuterol says on the tin.

    If it’s going on at lower levels and in the gyms and it’s all known to work then it stands to reason that the best of the best are gonna be in on it no?
     
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  2. Flamazide

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    Actually clen doesn't do that in humans. It does that in humans. Clen is basically a diuretic + epo (It functions differently than both of those but it gives similar effects. I am intentionally describing this in a very simplistic manner.) and it also helps in maximizing your gains if you're on other things. It is generally taken at the end of your cycle. It doesn't give you any lean muscle mass on its own.
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

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    Interesting which begs the question why so many boxers and athletes getting popped for it?i can’t pretend to know but from reading comments from those who know like body builders ect they all go on about stacking nefarious cocktails of HGH and others for the combined effects.
    From what I can tell though it sounds like it can f*** you up if you weren’t used to it and took a large dose.does this sound right?
     
  4. Flamazide

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    Are you asking if taking large amounts of clenbuterol can **** you up? Yes, but when you get to that point you're doing too much to get improvements from it. Imagine taking vitamins. If you take too many of them, you will die but to get to that point you have to take more than it would help you. Do you understand? It is late so my phrasing is **** now and I'm not even sure if I'm making sense lol.
     
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  5. Birmingham

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    I think its very ****in stupid talking like this. She got away with it, don't try being clever now and rubbing peoples noses in it.
     
  6. Mr Icaman

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    U do realise boxing isn't bodybuilding right??? How someone looks has nothing to do with the chance of them being on some sort of PED...

    Personally I think Wilder would be more likely to be on something given he has more freakish attributes..
     
  7. Angler Andrew

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    Lol you make perfect sense
     
  8. Flamazide

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    There are physical signs that can be used to identify certain PEDs.
     
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  9. Brighton bomber

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    Heavyweight PED Users

    Tyson Fury - often overweight and out of shape little muscle mass
    Mariusz Wach - ditto to above
    James Toney - Obese
    Luis Ortiz - Soft looking and overweight
    Dillian Whyte - Again often carrying too much weight

    So according to these heavyweights who were caught the physical signs of PED use is being out of shape. It's naive to think you can just identify PED users by their physical attributes as naive as thinking most top athletes are not doping.
     
  10. Flamazide

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    You CAN identify them. Not every PED is the exact same thing as others so they have different effects. A lot of things factor into this. What I said doesn't mean that those are the ONLY ones using them. There ARE physical signs of steroid use. Just because someone doesn't show these signs does not mean that they are not using any PEDs however. I didn't even imply that.
     
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  11. houmzz

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    At least she admit it, brave thing to do. But it's still wrong, her boxing career is over. I guess he has some alternative to boxing.
     
  12. Flamazide

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    She's already retired. Kind of... She hasn't fought since 2016. She has retired before (twice I think?) and she came back to fight random people. She is in her 50s. She called out Cris Cyborg at one point.
     
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  13. CutThroatFade

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    This is not news to anyone who has researched this and is aware of Victor Conte’s talks about the subject.

    This female boxer boxed for peanuts. Maybe $5k purses max. So use your brain and realise that world level boxers and fringe world level boxers who are fighting for the chance to make multi-million pound earnings will be using PEDS as they have a far greater incentive. It’s win at all costs for these competitive athletes.
     
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  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Stfu!
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    I've been telling people this for aeons but they are determined to believe their heroes are angels!