Taking a look at Monzon's six best wins

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Ahem.
     
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  2. mcvey

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    The underlined is a real hoot!!!!!!lol
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    His reach was an inch longer than Marciano's guess that means Rocky wouldn't do any good as a middle ?
    Your reach determines your physique? Wow, I never knew that!
    Strange that he doesn't look that small here against 5'11.5" Monzon

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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He was heavier than Monzon for their first fight!
    So was Licata,Benvenuti for their 2nd fight and Tonna ,so how are they smaller men? Carpentier fought at every weight class ,when he faced Dempsey was he a blown up flyweight.God you are a nonsense!
     
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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did you reach this conclusion after carefully researching your comic books and reviewing one of your video games?
     
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  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The KNOCKOUT!!!!!!!! Mendi is out.
     
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  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now look mendi if you hold yr breath until you get yr way you may be able to turn this around. Btw, GGG called and says you embarress him and he really doesn't need you on his side. He thinks you may have eaten tainted MEXICAN beef. Like the other fantastic story man Canelo.
     
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  8. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy Jones?
     
  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have clearly gone out of your way, in an attempt to diminish Monzon, but it's a terrible effort. Here's why...


    Declaring suppositions upfront is fine - in this case you state:
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    It seems the main conclusion you are drawing is:
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    The supposition is just that and not a strong platform from which to confidently draw a conclusion.
    The conclusion you draw is a big leap from the supposition.
    One can only hope you formed a premise, upon which you based getting from one to the other, despite you not stating it explicitly.

    You then select 'facts' (list dates, ages, height and reach measurements) on the assumption that they support your supposition and/or unspecified premise.

    I won't go over the relevant facts you omitted or represented incorrectly, which weakens your supposition. This has already been covered by other reasonable posters.


    Ultimately, the conclusion you have drawn has no basis in fact. And, I can only speculate that the premise was based on the supposition and is most likely false.


    In addition - you appear to take some warped moral high ground by almost challenging people to point out what you have said that isn't true. To this, I would say:

    - Sure, facts and figures, as far as they can be relied upon as accurate, are true.
    - But, declaring a fact (or a list of facts) on its own, is not reasoning.
    - Neither is the attachment of conclusions to these apparent facts, on the assumption that what you have inferred from them is correct.

    These are simple concepts.
    Your arguments are poor; both in their construction and in their substance.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Lol!
    Ten and out!
     
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  11. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He also could've been fighting Argentinan cab drivers, like you said we don't know...... But I do know his competition during his championship run is very suspect when your looking at it through rational eyes and rational thinking.
     
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  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how did you reach Monzon would psyche Marvin into defeat?

    that's not even realistic and could only have been taken out of the comics

    you can be sure Marvin's jab would find its mark regularly. How would Monzon avoid it? it's not fair

    within a short time, Marvin bangs the ribs. Not exclusively but a few well placed shots would take their toll. and nobody puts the pressure on like Marvin did. ask Thomas Hearns. ask Minter

    before long, Monzon starts to wilt and Marvin applies a left right to the chin, a right hook to the ribs, another hook to the head. Marvin flies off his feet with the jab and another series of hooks drops Monzon, prey to powers that know no equal

    but what could he do? as Barry Tompkins would say "he was just in with the best middleweight out there and caved in under it"
     
  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he was from Japan would it be rickshaw drivers?
     
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  14. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    I think you missed my point. Hagler didnt beat Duran because hes an inch taller. He beat Duran because he was stronger, fitter and younger. And the same goes for Monzon, he beat the men he did by using his strength, stamina, skills and ring iq. Would Monzon have the record he has today he if was, say 5'7" instead of 5'11"? Its impossible to say, but I think a shorter, more compact Monzon would still have had considerable success with his power, accuracy, durability and stamina.
     
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  15. mcvey

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    In the history of attempted assassinations this one will go down as a dismal failure!lol
     
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