The Fear Of Ortiz Is Real

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte seems terrified of stepping in the ring with this guy even though it would put him in a mandatory position for the WBC belt, As does Breazelle and Parker

    So many people have been calling Luiz Ortiz a old man, so why then are these guys so afraid of fighting him? It should be an easy nights work right?

    I say Ortiz sends every single one of those three C level beggers straight to hell
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The fear was real before, its off the charts now.:deal:
     
  4. Manassas

    Manassas “Rumble young man rumble!” Full Member

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    Kong ain’t no joke. He’s hungry and ready to fight anyone.

    Only weakness is that ticking clock. If he could’ve started younger he’d have already collected a strap or two
     
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  5. underwraps

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    Wilder didn't want Whyte, but agreed to fight Ortiz for less than half the money ??
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because taking the 0 of one of the boogeymen of the division was more important to him that handing AJ's sloppy seconds another L, after he barely scraped by Chisora.
     
  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Dillian 'I can't breath' Whyte won a split decision against a shot Chisora in which many felt he lost and then Whyte didn’t give him a rematch cause he didn't want to take the risk of losing.

    He then almost got knocked out by an equally out of shape, out of breath Joseph Parker and you seriously think he's worth watching get beaten to a pulp by Wilder who can breeze through 12 rounds throwing right hands from hell?

    The WBC ordered an elimination fight between Ortiz and Whyte for a title shot at Wilder and Whyte declined the fight because he knows he would get sent to sleep.

    The reason Wilder doesn't want to fight Whyte is because it's a waste of ****ing time. You got AJ for those kind of 70/30 mismatches. Wilder has bigger fish to fry in Tyson Fury.

    Only a braindead fake boxing fan would want to see Wilder take out Whyte over seeing him fight in a 50/50 fight against another champion.

    And no that silver WBC Charity gift belt Whyte holds doesn't qualify
     
  8. Okin129

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    Those guys are coming up with age when it comes to Ortiz because they can't critique his boxing skills which are impeccable, 39 years is not that old for a heavyweight when you haven't got much wear and tear, Ortiz is still a
    threat to every heavyweight fighter out there.
     
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  9. Okin129

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    Although i rate Whyte and think he is a decent fighter, i agree with you, never understood why people want to
    see that fight and accuse Wilder of ducking him.

    Wilder would wipe the floor with him, i have no doubts about that and everyone who watched fights from both
    should know why that is a mismatch.
     
  10. Lazar

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    Only Wilder was willing to step up and risk it.
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    He's a good fighter/brawler and I enjoy watching his tenacity and aggression but we need to put things in perspective as he's being propped up to be something he isn't, by so many idiots on here that wish to pretend that he is a threat to any of the 3-4 top Heavyweights. Technically and defensively he's easy prey against a good head hunter.

    His balance and coordination is laughable at times and he's lucky hes not been in there against too many big punchers. Whenever he did he was taken out by AJ and Parker with better conditioning would have done the same. Chisora put him down but as usual his wwe duckroom sponsored ref ruled it a slip.

    Then you have his poor conditioning and stamina issues and it doesn't bold well against any elite fighter

    Anyone who has power and will stand up to him he will fold to pieces. He's your typical bully.

    What is fascinating is that many here seem to think it is right that Wilder should fight Whyte over fury. I mean this is beyond ******ed.

    Firstly he will earn far more money fighting Fury. Mostly likely record breaking numbers in the heavyweight division if it sells well.

    Secondly he will have to work on Eddie's terms with a multitude of stipulations in the contract.

    Thirdly he will not recieve any credit for beating Whyte the same way because he's already been beaten in emphatic fashion by AJ and it will work out the same way as Ortiz, he will become a bum over night.

    Lastly when Wladimir had Chisora as his mandatory and pulled out to fight Haye in a unification, no one did complain because Haye was the champion and it was the fight everyone wanted to see.
     
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  12. CST80

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    Another reason why Wilder doesn't want to fight Whyte is because the moment he violently KO's him in 3. The whole of the anti-Wilder contingent in the Boxing community would take to the forums and make countless threads about how worthless the win was, after all AJ ruined him, Wilder's win doesn't mean **** or prove anything. What's the point? Truly, with the propagandistic spin doctor trash on the web now days, fighters just cannot win. No one can win, even people who selflessly try to help others get ruthlessly criticized. People are just monsters.
     
  13. Okin129

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    Agree with everything, Whyte is made up to be the new bogeyman of the heavyweight division which is laughable.
    I think the people are overrating him in the same way they overrated Parker for a long time.
    Most people had Parker as a top 5 heavyweight, many had him even in the top 3 but now we know what he
    really is, he is a decent top 10 guy but nothing more and so is Whyte.
     
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  14. KiwiMan

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    He did, for two reasons:

    1. To make a statement - most people can see that Ortiz is better than Whyte despite his age. Joshua had just made a statement win over Klitschko and Wilder wanted to respond.

    2. To annoy Eddie Hearn. Wilder really dislikes Hearn, as does Fury - which is why they may well fight each other later this year. There's more money in fighting Joshua one at a time, but this ruins one of two big fights for Joshua and reduces his leverage for that one too.
     
  15. Reg

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    Who do you rate higher than Parker and Whyte right now? Pulev? Povektin?