Alfredo Angulos rehydration weight

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    It turns out angulo rehydrated 174 pounds fight night against Lara . Lara himself rehydrated to 164 . Angulo rehydrated 20 pounds from 154 did that help give him extra power against lara enough to be able to knock him down twice ? Is ten pounds more than your opponent really that much of a big factor
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Shhh! Folks on this site don't want to understand or discuss the realities and averages of ring weight, walk around weight, draining, etc. This point doesn't fit any apparent agenda, nobody benefits from it, thus zero responses.
     
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  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    10 pounds on your opponent is quite serious, course it helped with the KD. But rehydrating 20 lbs overnight is even more dangerous for your own health. Water mass quickly ballooning up the brain makes the cerebral cortex and the skull swollen and softer, ergo more prone to internal bleeding and minor, long term brain damage. No fighter rehydrating more than 10-15 lbs overnight (depending on weight class) does a service for his health.
     
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  4. testez

    testez Member Full Member

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    These guys make a living by being constantly hit in the head for decades. The health problems of weight yoloing is their last concern.
     
  5. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t care if he rehydrated 50lbs more, all that matters was he made weight in the weigh in.
     
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    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure its aiding punching power but it certainly helped him with his strength inside and also with his ability to absorb blows

    that said he made weight

    unless your trying to go down the road of he didn't make weight without banned methods I don't get the point
     
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  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, it is actually not, severe dehyration and rehydration can significantly increase the chances of severe brain trauma both short term and long, the Leavander Johnson case clearly pointed this out and lead to at least some sort of post-weigh-in check.

    However, it's mostly unenforced and fighters keep making it worse. What's the point of earning all that cash if you medical bill at 50 (by the time you spent it all) is twice as large and you are at 50% mental capacity? Severe rehydration CLEARLY plays a major part of aging fighters not being able to articulate.
     
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  8. testez

    testez Member Full Member

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    what i was saying is that THEY, dont really care about this issue, not that its not important.
     
  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I'm actually surprised we don't see more extreme examples. Back in the same day weigh-in days there were guys that rehydrated 20+ lbs between the weigh-in and the actual fiģht. Nowadays they get up to 24 additional hours to rehydrate. In all fairness, drug testing has become a lot stricter since, so it's a lot harder to get away with diuretics and such.
     
  10. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've heard Butterbean once put on 37 lbs between weigh-in and the fiģht. Toney also regularly put on 30lbs+ at HW.
     
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    Often they don't care because they don't even know the longterm harm it causes. You'd be surprised how many competitors aren't aware of things like this.
     
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There should be day of fight weigh ins
     
  13. testez

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    i agree.
     
  14. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's unreasonable to ask a 21yo outta getto to have a comprehensive knowledge on subdural hematoma, deterioration of brain tissue overtime and effects of severe dehydration and rehydration. Ask any of them, or anyone here for that matter if they take a million bucks with a small chance of brain damage and they'll say hell yeah.

    Which is why we have commissions, sanctioning bodies and medical boards involved. It would be reasonable to ask them to provide a safe sports environment, however they are inept, corrupt and money hungry, so fighters aren't protected from short and long term brain trauma, nor educated on the negative effects such as dangerous hydration.
     
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  15. DoubleJ

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    I was at that fight, a very exciting fight and night. Sitting in the crowd, I had no idea Angulo had rehydrated to a 10 pound advantage.

    Like all examples of this, I have to pull the old "don't hate the player, hate the game" line from the 90s. Organizations need to change the rules and put strict rehydration limits on fighters or this will continue to happen.