The Fear Of Ortiz Is Real

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    The real hardcore boxing faithful have nothing good to say about Hearn.

    I make no secret of the fact I'm anti hearn, anti casual, anti paper champion, anti idiocy, anti moronic, anti dishonesty and anti scumbag posters.

    I am the abrogating principle to all those vile things which you support and represent.
     
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  2. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    lol I said his stamina wasn't top 10 thats why he lost...

    I'm not bothering with your make believe Ortiz was ducked line, its been done to death..

    Have no idea what you are trying to say about Lewison tbh??

    Bottom line you could say the same thing about Wilder and Whyte.. Wilder could have got a good pay cheque, taken Whtye out of the picture and put Hearn in a corner but noooooooo I'm too arrogant for that...

    You really think fighting a shell of Fury is going to put Hearn in a corner, he has already got an excuse....
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    It's on record and it can't be disputed. Everything I say can be verified because I only deal with the facts

    Facts trumps beliefs which is all you have duckroom harlots have left to hold on to, which is why I'm tearing your argument's to pieces time and time again.

    He would be forfeiting fighting a bigger payday against the lineal champion Fury so he's not doing the same with Whyte and as I explained before he isn't mandatory.

    He's already put Hearn in a corner by choosing to fight Fury. That slimeball thought he could keep Wilder waiting as long as he wanted. Povetkin was planned months ago from when he fought on AJs last undercard and had Whyte scheduled for April months ago.

    The three biggest fights in the division by far are Fury, Wilder and Joshua fighting each other. T he winner of Fury vs Wilder will be rewarded with a record breaking purse and will then be considered the true Lineal heavyweight champion which is why you groupies are so desperate for the fight not to happen.

    Eddie messed up by advising Jenner to turn down 80 million guaranteed for two fights, as now Joshua can only fight the winner of Fury/Wilder who can demand 50/50 instead of fighting both of them so they've lost control and lost one of two huge paydays for Jenner. Meanwhile Jenner and Hearn have now been exposed as the greedy cowards that they are and upstaged by two fighters who want to fight the best to prove they are the best. Fury and Wilder should be commended not slandered by the bitter jealous Hearn and his duckroom mong brigade.

    Eddies is getting found out and he'll better be careful he doesn't get taken out if he doesn't get Al Haymon's name out of his mouth out in the states, because at the moment he's going to get frozen out with his mickey mouse DAZN garbage.
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    fear of needing to tell ortiz family that you didnt kill him he just had a heart attack in the ring thats all.
     
  5. BCS8

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    Orrrrrr ... the truth:

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    Wilder and his team have been in Sheffield, England, for the past two weeks training and adjusting to several hours of time difference.
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    with the titleholder preparing to return home, announced the fight was off and called it a postponement."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/deont...etkin-title-fight-postponed/story?id=39129747

    I agree. The facts are that Povetkin was waaaay under the allowable limit for Meldonium and that Wilder ran back to the USA before the WBC even had a chance to decide what to do. They say his monogrammed underpants are still in the Heathrow lost and found.

    Except:

    "Ortiz, who goes by the nickname "King Kong," voluntarily provided a urine sample before the fight, which
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    in the postfight drug screen, according to the Nevada State Athletic Commission's complaint against him."

    http://www.espn.in/boxing/story/_/i...d-positive-steroid-wake-winning-interim-title

    :rolleyes: Meldonium likewise is used in the treatment of heart ailments and lowers blood pressure by helping dilate blood vessels.

    Because AJ thinks he can beat Povetkin whereas Wilder defecates himself when Povetkin comes up on the news?
     
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  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Believe what you want to believe BCS8 it makes no difference to the reality. All that povetkin garbage is old boring stone age news and if you wish to twist the facts to make it seem as if it was Wilder's fault for him failing 3 tests, then I who I am to change your mind. It's pointless because no one in the real world really believes Wilder to be at fault for anther man getting banned. You have to be special needs to believe that. :lol:

    I've already shown you the facts showing you that The WBC were the ones who cancelled the fight and you're trying to find evidence that somehow Wilder was the one who not only cancelled the mandatory but also banned and fined Povetkin :lol:

    Anyway what matters now is that Wilder is about to fight the undefeated Linear Champion of the world which trumps any fight with Whyte, Povetkin, Chisora or any of Jenner's bodyguards that you wish to talk up as monsters.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    for dodging the fight and running back to the USA?

    Yes, it was.

    We all know it was and the facts - FACTS, I say - support ME and not your wishy washy OPINIONS.

    And I have just shown you that Wilder forced the WBC's hand by not flying to Russia and flying back to the US instead.
    Lies. Straight up lies. Quote me.
    Lineal, son. It's "lineal" :rolleyes:
    :risas3::risas3::risas3:

    The fat as **** ghost of Tyson Fury would get run over right now by Povetkin like a penny on the train tracks. Wilder has always had a thing for fat, flabby opponents, though. Maybe he likes man-titties, dunno?[/QUOTE]
     
  8. KingFury64

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    Ortiz AIN`T no Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Joe Frazier or even Ernie Shavers. Let`s get real.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

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    No, even before the WBC mandated the fight, Wilder said in an interview Whyte must beat Ortiz first before facing him. The WBC simply supported that idea, likely with some influence from Haymon. So the comparison stands.

    Hearn definitely wants to make Wilder/Whyte or even Wilder/Chisora. Maybe he is using Wilder's name, calling him out with Whyte and Chisora to build their profiles but fact is Wilder has allowed this by not taking the fights and calling his bluff, if it is a bluff that is. Hearn probably knows Haymon isn't going to risk Wilder fighting a voluntary against a fighter who isn't signed with him so can keep doing this, knowing Haymon will never allow it.

    As for why he would he waste his time, well he has several million reasons to fight Whyte and Chisora. Anyone else would accept a big fat pay check for a likely easy win. But instead he fought Ortiz for about half the money.

    As for the Fury fight, maybe it will happen but with both their track record of talking big then back tracking I'll believe it when I see it.
     
  10. CasualFan

    CasualFan Active Member Full Member

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    How many eliminators does this guy need to have before he gets a shot at Wilder? Nice smoke screen post. WBC = Wilders Bodyguard Crew
     
  11. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    "I haven’t thought about Joshua since he avoided me a while back, but it’s a fight where you would see me enjoy beating the **** out of him for several rounds.

    I see myself breaking down Joshua to the body and ripping his head off with right hooks and straight left hands over the course of eight rounds.

    But at least Wilder put his money where his mouth is, stepped up and fought me. I’ve got zero respect for Joshua, who, at this point, is a complete punk hiding behind his puppeteer promoter."

    Ortiz dropping some truth bombs.
     
  12. GlaukosTheHammer

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    I reckon BCS is a Pov fanboy. He goes around trying to convince folks Pov ain't a ***** almost as much as he goes around hating on Wilder. It's pretty funny really. I'll be reading along and thinking where is that BC? then scroll and scroll and jango, there he is....being propagandist and acting like ostarine doesn't exist.

    Povetkin avoided Wlad for a decade and still sucked. Stays relevant based on leftovers. Avoids all prospects until after they lose, and stopped no one who debuted after him from fighting for a title before him. You don't need the two failed drugs tests for two different drugs to prove that ***** is a *****.
     
  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    youre not really putting forward a compelling argument
    No one in the world of boxing respects that coward anymore.

    ''There is no question that it is Wilder who wants the fight and it is Wilder who wants to prove that he is the man in this new heavyweight era," Said Lewis

    "Joshua said he would take fifty million dollars in a heartbeat but when that offer came he didn't accept. I would have taken fifty million quicker than a heartbeat gone through with any fight. But I never ducked anyone."
     
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  14. yesihavearm2

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    Ortiz is definitely a boogey man and being avoided, but I think it's more down to how little he brings to the table rather than fighters being afraid of him. I don't blame Whyte for going with Parker at all in the circumstances with the pay-off from headlining a PPV show vs Parker on the table. I've seen sources online that state Whyte got $4 million for that, significantly more than Wilder has made for any fight as a comparison. I was happy with Whyte fighting any of Ortiz, Parker or Pulev....three good options in all honesty.

    Interesting to see Joe Joyce calling Ortiz out publicly, that's a huge step up for him. Very interested to see if it gets made.
     
  15. BCS8

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    And yet Povetkin popped Eddie Chambers' cherry and Wawryzk's cherry. Yes, the same Wawryzk Wilder wanted to defend his belt against.

    And yet Povetkin fought Wlad and Wilder didn't.

    And yet Povetkin was going to fight Wilder, and Wilder ran.

    And yet, Povetkin is fighting AJ and Wilder isn't.

    Only b****es around here are chicken legs Wilder and his ***** supporters :deal: