DEONTAY WILDER: The “Science” Of Boxing is a MYTH!

what is his full name?

 

Prince Naseem Hamed. Featherweight champion of the world for about five years back in the late 90s and early 2000s. Hall of famer. Literally one of the biggest names in boxing during that time.

 

yes of course I have heard of him. I would not consider him free style.

 

So why bother learning boxing at all? Just get in shape and fight.

Guys like Loma, Mayweather, Rigo? Just glorified strert fighters apparently.

I understand why he'd say it, because his athleticism and the division he's fighting in allowed him to bypass some of that "science" aspecg but it's certainly not a myth.

 

He's done well based on basically pure physical talent and very little else.

He needs to wrap it up within the next couple of years though because dudes with poor fundamentals do not age well

 

So I took the time to actually listen to the interview and no disrespect but you’ve taken his statements completely out of context. While we can never accurately hypothesize how Wilder would fair against past greats we can live in the moment of HW boxing as it’s unfolding today. I’ve seen DW execute proper delivery with his punches however what he’s trying to say is when you’re in that ring sometimes it’s about just purely delivering despite what others might say about your execution. Try looking past you pre determined dislike for him and read into what he’s attempting to express. The myth he’s mentioning is the so called success of those who stick by the book at all costs when true fighters find power, focus and energy in very primitive, unorthodox and raw expression.

 

It's Wilder. We will probably never fully understand what he is trying to say.

 

Lol noted

 

Fair enough you haven't heard of them lad.
Some of those names are a bit obscure but that does not mean they weren't successful. I think you will enjoy doing a little homework and having a cheeky Google of their names to have a read about their careers and watch some film of them aswell.

There is at least 3 hall of hamers in those names. Almost all of them showed they were able to impose their own unique and unorthodox style on boxers of various styles and technical ability at a world class level.

 

Comparing Hamed to Wilder?

Hamed actually fought some top opposition, and until he stopped training properly, not listening to the man who got him there, and cared more about £££ than success, he was the main man at his weight and looked unbeatable.

With the exception of Ortiz, almost of the top 10 beat all of his opposition......Even Tony Bellew does.

And the only reason i say 'with the exception' of Ortiz is not because I rate him highly, it's because he too hasn't had a win i'd consider impressive, especially given we don't know whether he was on gear at the time.

 

Ah, my bad then. I'll take your word for it then since I didn't actually listen to the interview. You'd have a much better perception of it than I would.

Also I don't dislike Wilder. I just don't think he's a good boxer because his technique is awful and is something you see from people that have only been boxing for a few months and he should be far above that level given how long he has been competing in the sport.

 

So he cant do it so he calls it a myth? How cute. Its like hes got the brain of a teenager.

 

Really?

 

Been telling youse it's a myth for years. Literally one of my very first rants on this forum....some of you might even know who I'm gonna bring up next.

Daniel The Jew Mendoza invented the "science" of boxing. He taught it to black american fighters. That's why the "black american style" is defense first. Mendoza was looking to make as much money as he could while being undersized. The black americans were looking to make as much money as they could while being black. It behooved them to learn from Mendoza or a Mendoza School fighter so that they could fight a good fight people wanted to see without taking serious injury.

At no point did Mendoza School boxing ever run into real science. Sports science is bull**** for public relations not real science, that's why they release figures in unworkable units.

There is no science in boxing, there wasn't then, there isn't now, and the only time there ever was that I know of is when Marciano got his punch measured by the US Army. There's a reason why that is in ft-lbs, it was a real study. There's a reason why Francis Nnganu or whatever the **** from MMA's record breaking punch was delivered to you from sports science in units....I'm not being vague they used the unit "units". What is a unit? Nothing specific.

Where did this confusion, misconception, misunderstanding, whatever you call it come from? Daniel The Jew Mendoza lived during the enlightenment era. It's the 1790s and two things are all the rage, science and rationalism and reviving traditions from antiquity. Figg, in the 1720, brings Sparta's martial art back to life, Mendoza in the 90s applies Newtonian logic to boxing. It is inspired by science and since it's theories are tested in real-world experiment calling it science never bothered any scientists. That doesn't mean we've ever done any real studies into the science of fighting. It doesn't mean the science of fighting is even true. It just means it's worked. Plenty of things worked for man for millenia before we found out it's all bull****.

Or whatever, this thread has to do with Deontay Wilder so I must be full of **** because it's just easier to hate on Wilder if everything I say is nonsense right?




I am the only qualified kinesiologist on this forum.

 

sad truth is Wilder might the most intelligent person in Alabama.