Gennady Golovkin vs Dick Tiger

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  1. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    The monster of the middleweight division versus the real monster of the middleweight division. Which is which? Can a prime Golovkin go toe to toe with Tiger despite being forced to be on the backfoot against Jacobs?
     
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    Tiger by decision i think.
     
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    Tiger could be outboxed ,but nobody beat him in a shoot out.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Laugh if u want but I give a prime G the edge
     
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    The conventional wisdom back in Tiger's day was never try to out strength the man...to box, and jab, jab, jab...all night long...the was an adage in an article of SI (when it was still a good mag)..."a good trombone player will beat Tiger"...meaning of course that the motion used to play a trombone parallels the act of jabbing.
    No one...repeat, no one, was going to out slug or go toe to toe with Dlck Tiger. If a fighter was clever and resourceful...had boxing ability, and of course, a jab, then he had a chance to the Richard Ihetu. Forget Bob Foster and Frankie DePaula,...that was at lightheavyweight...nobody could dislodge that ebony chin of Tiger's and nobody was going to outstrength him either. Emile Griffith decked him briefly in outpointing him for the middleweight title, but at that point in Tiger's life, he had never been decked or hurt...his chin was seen as impervious to punches...for a longer period, and at a more advanced age than Marvin Hagler.
    To answer the thread question,...if GGG could reverse and adapt his style...show an extra dimension, he would have a chance at outpointing Tiger, but that was a big "if" IMO.
     
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    Nobody.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    This has been done before.

    Golovkin outboxes him.

    My answer is the same as it was back in the other thread: Golovkin boxes him from behind the jab and Lemieux's him. I'll see if I can find it.
     
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    Love Tiger but my money would be on GGG.
     
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    The key section was this:

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    Notice how Nino's nothing jab forced Tiger to reset each time. Notice how Tiger is strong, but frankly slow as molasses. See how Tiger tries to jump in with a big punch every time and then try to rough him up with some pretty wild punching.

    This is very simple. You can't simply one shot GGG by throwing single overhand rights from the judges box. His distance control is way too good for that. Even Canelo, who is about twice as fast as Tiger, didn't find it easy to land clean. The fact that DT resets after every jab (and some aren't even landing, ffs) is going to see him in a world of trouble against Golovkin who has an absolutely top shelf jab and isn't afraid to use it. In fact, he's one of the most prolific jabbers in history.

    If Golovkin decided to fight him like he fought Brook, then yeah, Tiger might have a decent chance. But Golovkin has always been careful with big punchers and out boxed them. This will be easier than Jacobs.
     
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    Tiger was 39yrs 9 months old going into his 80th fight. Nino was almost a decade younger. This was Tiger's third last fight. He had been brutally ko'd by bob Foster at 175 two fights previous.

    How on earth could this version of Tiger be relevant in any way, shape or form????? I notice you do this quite a bit.

    How fast and lively did Larry Holmes look at 40 odd? How did Ali look vs Berbick? How fast and lively did Hagler look at 33-34?

    Brutally biased treatment of Tiger. This version is completely irrelevant.
     
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    My apologies.

    Is the version that lost to this guy relevant:

    http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/13489

    Alan Dean was 7-6 at the time.
     
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    All good i won't waste any more time.
     
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    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    And Tiger was 18-7 when he last lost to Dean. I'm sure he was still formidable but not yet the fighter he would become.

    On film of Tiger I see a much faster, stronger and sharper puncher than Golovkin. Golovkin may have looked pretty outboxing Lemieux and Murray, but he looked slow and sometimes lost against Jacobs and Canelo. Tiger is by far the best opponent he would face, and none of Golovkin's best opponents, no matter what style have had trouble landing on him.

    Tiger is tenfolds the puncher that Canelo is, if an average welterweight puncher like Canelo could easily hold off an aging Golovkin, Tiger would introduce new types of impacts on a prime Gennady's face. And thus far none of the opposition has shown any of the offensive variety that Tiger has, which he has in spades. He's not the best at coming forward, but Gennady isn't the best at going backwards either.
     
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    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even hinting at there being some kind of comparison between Tiger and Lemieux is a travesty.
     
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