Cracking the MW Top 10

In an era of constant ducking you have to rely on the eye test. Head to head GGG beats any middleweight

 

of course ggg can od it, with wins over alvarez, BJ, and the charlos, chenko and whoever comes up till 2020, a good 6 year reign.

or perhaps a bit more, up to 2021 or 22.

 

Head-to-Head, Golovkin didn't beat Alvarez, who was in his first genuine middleweight contest.

One doesn't need the 'eye-test' and an arbitrary, sweeping statement to determine that. It is a documented result.

 

How did you score the first fight?

What do you mean, it was Alvarez first middle weight fight, the Cotto fight was a middle weight fight.

Why doesn't the eye test or head to head count?

If you want to talk title defenses, GGG rates #1 at middle weight.

 

shouldda gone to spacsavers

 

"Saturday's fight was contracted at a catchweight of 155 pounds, five less than the division limit".

 

It was scored a draw. Therefore, it doesn't matter how I or anyone else, other than the official judges, scored the fight.

Covered in another response to you...

They can count as an opinion, i.e. on an entirely subjective basis and, thereby, in a very limited sense. They certainly do not count above actual results; especially, results that do not support statements made, based on the so-called 'eye test' and H2H rating.

I didn't mention title defenses. They have nothing to do with the so-called 'eye test' and H2H rating.

 

I take your point, but I disagree to a large extent. Yes, there are a draws, which are extremely contentious...

However, the Golovkin/Alvarez bout falls in to the "Most felt Golovkin deserved the nod..." category; not the Hagler/Antuofermo and the Leonard/Hearns draws, which lean much closer to being robberies.

As far as Armstrong/Garcia goes, it's hard to know how bad a decision this truly was. Firstly, I am unaware of there being an unedited version of the fight available. Secondly, the referee was the sole arbiter.

In any event, the Golovkin/Alvarez bout really didn't have enough about it for so much fuss to be made of the result. It was not a high quality contest. Neither fighter really pushed the envelope, in my view, and it pales as a comparison to the great fights and their participants that you cite here.

 

Are you saying you're okay with bad decisions? I'm asking you who do you think won the fight.

Yes, Canelo looking huge. likely above 175 pounds has been mentioned before.

Yes head to head counts as an opinion, but I disagree that it is limited. For example, if you think modern middleweights suck, that is based on you seeing them because their ring records, at least those in the top ten have far fewer losses to journeyman types.

But what do they do in terms of establishing a legacy?

 

mendy hes not saying that, hes saying its a draw. it was.

have faith that 3G our hero will put things right by raising his game this time round, cos u are gonna look dumb IF he loses next time with yuo trying to claim the first draw was a bad decision.

 

There was a scorecard thread where something like 70% plus of all media and boxing cards felt GGG won with the sample size being over 50 score cards! 70% is a bit more than most.

Those who picked Canelo were his countrymen or financially connected to him by a majority. In addition, one judge who voted for Canelo had perhaps the worst scorecard in the past 20 years.

GGG out landed Canelo 10-1 with one round even and was the aggressor for most of the fight.

 

He's already backtracking a bit. But my question to him remains who do you think won the fight? He can speak for himself.

I have faith GGG will win the re-match, even at his age.

 

how he backtrack from a draw?

so why u fussed?

 

this all seems to have happened ONLY this time, funnily enough.

or r u only so fussed because this one ttime, ggg didnt win?