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No he isn’t. Fury is a recovering drug addict, and formerly obese.

If he does beat Wilder that only says something about Wilders Lack of pugilistic aptitude.

 

plus fury doesn't have a single win against a prime, decent hw.

 

needs drug money.

 

Yeah, hes really ducking ducking Whyte for Tyson fury. What a moron.

 

all talk of their respective merits aside, wilder calls the shots vs fury. against whyte he is seen as bowing down.

 

I agree with that statement.

 

Well no, just because many (myself included) got the Floyd vs. McGregor wrong PPV wise doesn't mean every single sketchy PPV card will do well. You allow one single example bias your reasoning.

 

Again, the comparison I’m making is that the fight was driven by two trash-talking guys promoting it and getting public attention that created a buzz.

I know, and everybody knows, this will not sell on the level of Floyd-McGregor. But I do believe when the hype machine gets rolling it will create interest that will result in a reasonable amount of PPV sales — some people are saying this fight isn’t even big enough to be in Vegas and should be on regular Showtime, and I think those predictions are wrong.

I’m saying it will sell more PPVs than AJ-Povetkin will attract FREE viewers in the U.S. who take the no-cost month trial on DAZN. It will sell more PPVs than Triple G has sold for any fight that does not involve Canelo.

Most reasonable predictions I’ve seen are saying it will sell 250-300K PPVs, which is a good number for a matchup between two guys who have never been on PPV before. And that’s not even knowing what’s going to be on the undercard — I expect there will be a very solid second attraction.

 

Fury didnt make the AJ fight because Hearn was snaking around and going to insist on a stupid % and rip him off

Atleast with Wilder its 50/50 down the line and no one is being screwed

 

I think you're right. Wilder/Ortiz did draw big numbers on Showtime, Wilder's brand has definitely grown since he's been calling out Joshua 24/7. His social media following has doubled or more though still small and his GF is on a TV show he apparently appears on time to time. It's now or never really to see if he's PPV worthy.

Fury probably is the best opponent they could choose to try and promote a fight as Wilder's first dip into the PPV waters. Undefeated, lineal champion, trash talker who will sell the fight, highly rated like Ortiz but like Ortiz not prime, looked poor in last 2 fights and been inactive and out of shape so hopefully shouldn't beat him.

I don't think it will sell big numbers, but anything above 250K in US PPV sales I would regard as a moderate success, over 300K a good result, over 400K would be fantastic.

 

Frank is pushing Fury into this fight as it’s only a matter of time before he gets back on the gear. He’s cashing out early.

 

i think you are far overestimating it. maybe i am wrong, but i would halve your estimates, at least.

 

no idea what it was that had Klitschko in a trance. Fury's mental games? his crazy wife's preggo drama? age? all of the above? it certainly wasn' that fury is some world beater.

 

I too have been impressed with how he's overcome adversity during his period of inactivity. The man clearly has some big issues in regards to his mental health and the fact he's been able to get himself back to fighting shape or close to it again has to be respected, it's hard enough to do without mental health problems but to lose over 100lbs with his fragile mental health shows incredibly grit. I honestly didn't think he'd be able to do it but he's earned my respect in this regard.

I'm not a fan and doubt I ever will be because of the doping ban. But I respect and like him much more now as a man than a boxer. I'll probably root for him vs Wilder if it happens, don't think I've ever rooted for him ever in any fight.

And yes you have to say Fury has balls to take this fight and take this fight apparently in the US. Cynics might say it's a cash out and maybe it is from Warren's perspective as he likely can't get Fury in with cash cow Joshua unless Fury beats someone decent, but I think Fury believes he can and will win. Also I wouldn't rule Fury out completely from beating Wilder. I don't think he looked as bad as some think vs Pianeta he was never a pretty boxer to watch and he showed some improvement from the Seferi fight, I expect an even better, leaner, sharper version of Fury by the time of the Wilder fight. He's the underdog but he's shocked the world before.

 

Not saying it would even do those numbers, there's a definite risk this PPV could bomb like Ward/Kovalev or not meet expectations like GGG/Lemieux.