Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

Yes they can.

Nearly 16hrs that you have been on here trolling.....hope you infertile for humanitys sake.

 

ok, "anyone can win a world title"

 

Again, only you could argue against what Joe himself said. Here you are trying to build up Roy and his performance, despite Joe having said that he was shot on numerous occasions. It's pitiful.

Roy knocked Joe down with a mistimed shot, but he couldn't capitalise upon it.

So what if he went out and beat Sheika and Lacy afterwards?

He couldn't even beat Danny Green.

He was no longer able to fight at the highest level.

You've blown nothing out of the water.

 

Yes, he said he would fight whoever became his WBO mandatory.

That's the point isn't it.

Joe took over from where Eubank left off.

Once again, you've destroyed nothing.

We only have to look at Eubank's resume.

We only have to look at Joe's resume, along with a quote where he said that he was proud of his 21 WBO defences.

Being proud of those defences meant that he was HAPPY to fight ALL of those guys from 1997-2007.

Here they are:

Sobot
Giminez
Reid
Thornberry
Starie
Sheika
Woodhall
Veit
McIntyre
Brewer
Jiminez
Pudwill
Mitchell
Mkrtchyan
Salem
Veit
Ashira
Lacy
Bika
Manfredo
Kessler

He was more than happy to face all of the above, yet you want to claim that he wanted the biggest fights available, yet he was avoided?

"But, he'd have taken a fight against Roy had it have been available"

Ha!

I wonder why the opportunity never presented itself?

It's a real mystery.

 

What difference does it make when the fight was signed?

He conducted a live studio interview, where he actually laughed that Roy was past his best, before answering 'yes' when asked if it would be a let down to end his career against him.

It's here:

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"Roy Jones was a great fighter, but he's not a great fighter anymore"

"He's been knocked out twice in something like 5 fights, so I don't see it as a motivating fight"

"After this fight, the number 1 fight would be against Kelly Pavlik"


Yet you're arguing that fighting Roy was more relevant than fighting Pavlik.


The fight with Pavlik was there to be made. But he was desperate to retire with Roy's name on his resume instead.

Desperate to fight a shot guy who we wouldn't fight when he was anywhere near his best, as he was happy to fight the Veit's of the world instead.

When it came to Roy, Joe was just like Bernard Hopkins:

A scavenger.

 

Big money?

Branko Sobot was one example.

How about 3 years later when he was facing the likes of Veit?

Did fighting guys like that push him any closer to a mega fight that he said he wanted?

Yes, I do think that Joe starved himself to make weight more than the average fighter. And there was no need to have done that, when he could have made LHW more comfortably. A weight which contained the world's best fighter who he apparently wanted to fight.

 

See how the agenda is showing through again.
Im not arguing with what anyone said. He also said Jones had come back with some wins which was the case.
Now you are arguing with the post fight commentary.

The agenda... How was Jones punch mistimed? Lol
The agenda... So what if Jones won after Calzaghe when he stopped an opponent in 5 rounds who went on to push a world class LHW a year later. It says plenty fool
The agenda... the Green fight was at CW and you havent noted how Jones went the distance after at LHW with Hopkins who once again after became the LHW champ

 

Whats the point in putting his resume up if you arent going to comment on the fights that you are not happy with?
Some of those fights were arguably the biggest fights available at the time, so at least tell me what you are commenting on... Who and why?

 

Ive seen the interview, as said I have also read how he talked about Jones coming back with wins.
Its the same as with the Ward interview. I take into account all that is said but you pick and choose the ones that suit you... ie the agenda

 

Sobot was the first defence fool.
Veit was considered a challenge at the time and was a big fight in Germany for the return

 

He tried to claim that Roy had had 3 great wins, to try and justify his decision to fight him, after the media had put him on the spot regarding his earlier comments.

How was the punch mistimed?

Are you now saying that Roy deliberately hit him with his forearm?

What difference does it make it the Green fight was at CW?

Roy was clearly incapable of winning at the top level. Sheika and Lacy were low level fighters at that point.

So what if he went the distance with Hopkins? Hopkins isn't a puncher, and it was an awful, fouled filled fight.

 

I dont recall him saying great wins?
Jones came back and beat a contender, an undefeated opponent who was a contender and Tito. Roy looked back to norm with those wins.

The punch landed and knocked Calzaghe down. roy was throwing to hit him. Not miss completely. Not all punches land clean and although that one didnt, it wasnt mistimed, it was thrown to land

Of course a fight at a different and new weight makes a difference. Dear oh dear

Now the agenda kicks in again with so what if he went the distance with the future champ who he even knocked down even though not called

 

Read carefully:

NONE of those fights were going to land him a fight against the world's best fighter, which according to you, was what he wanted.

Do you understand?

This is your stance to defend him:

"He'd have taken the fight if it'd have been there"

Well how was it ever going to be there, when he fought those guys?

How does defending a lightly regarded title at SMW, gain you a showdown with the world's best fighter who fights at LHW?

Please explain.

 

This is a nothing reply.

You clearly can't defend that interview.

 

But the Lacy fights and Kessler fights did.
The Eubank fight made waves and got attention also
The Mitchell fight was noted also

Also it wasnt just about Jones. There was Hopkins and Ottke also.