The No Spin Zone: A Fair & Balanced Assessment Of Everything Anthony Joshua & Deontay Wilder.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Aug 19, 2018.


  1. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    That was my initial point. Thanks for clarifying. What a shame you have to resort to insults, staff member.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm a moderator, you had it right the first time. As far as the insult goes, if you act like a dip****, then don't be surprised if someone calls you a dip****.:D You were angling for a fight, that was a clear attempt to turn this thread into the typical AJ-Wilder fanboy knock down drag out, and no one took your bait, and now you're acting all innocent. No one's buying it.:lol:
     
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  3. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    My older daughter has been known to say "I'm 95% smarter than 100% of all other people".
     
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  4. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    I didn’t bank on you refreshing the page every nanosecond, so well done of spotting my pre-edit. I was just asking a question, based on known facts. Sorry if you took it personally.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I didn't refresh it, I saw the alert pop as I was exiting another thread, so I clicked on it. I don't take anything all that personally. I'm just an a****** sometimes.
     
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  6. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Fair enough :D
     
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  7. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    3 of your best posts, you managed to make a topic involving Hearn and Joshua while remaining impartial :dunno you'll have to excuse me while I go to the window to check too see if it's raining frogs and locusts.
     
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  8. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Anyone else, I probably would've ignored it and not cared because it's pretty trivial. You, however, I knew would be bothered by the minute details like that.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :qmeparto:
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So you've picked up on my OCD then?:lol: And yeah, you're right. Thanks.:thumbsup:
     
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  11. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, the non spin zone. Surely you are joking especially after reading your posts. I quit reading after Stiverne I getting a C-, when he was that game to take Wilder's power and force things we haven't seen in Wilder before. Stiverne should get some credit for that and being top 5 in the division at the time, once Wilder beats an opponent they are instant bum. One reason why I can't take resume talk seriously.

    Let's just say AJ can get all the experience he wants but as things currently stand and will in the next 5 years, Wilder is AJ's worst matchup. That's one bit of analysis that's missing from your post and most on any boxing forum. The most credit should go to boxers who are willing to fight their worst or bad matchups and still win. This is the reason why there's so much ducking going on in boxing and you know it. Wilder did that with Ortiz, and Fury isn't a great matchup for him either because a negative stink out the joint runner that is actually bigger is going to force Wilder to do different things than he has in the past.

    AJ on the other hand is avoiding his worst matchup in Wilder. Don't have to take my word for it, listen to his trainer, and most boxing industry figures. They know more about boxing than us and (boxing figures) are saying the same picking Wilder. AJ still talking about "learning fights" why do you think that's the case but what is there to learn about fighting Wilder. AJ has 3 belts, the time for learning is over, he should be ready or he shouldn't have pursued the belts. I can't even say that AJ himself isn't scared which is pretty damn sad. He changes his whole demeanor every time Wilder's name is spoken. What does he know that we don't is the real question. Actually I know a little something, can't avoid bombs when tired. So AJ still needs experience in fighting while exhausted...that's not an excuse anybody should except from a unified champion.
     
  12. Peterp

    Peterp Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The problem is to be a top heavyweight nowadays you need to be 6 foot 4 or taller

    How many young elite athletes who meet this criteria are choosing boxing v Football, Rugby, Basketball, tennis or even MMA ?
     
  13. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not so sure about this. AJ and Hearn seems to be playing good cop bad cop with us.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well maybe I didn't think it was extraordinary because I said it would happen, go back and look at my posts in the lead up to the fight. I had a lot of faith in Wilder back then and saw something that most didn't. I had an discussion with Rumsfeld where I argued that Wilder had an underrated skillset, that he was going to surprise a lot of people and that he'd keep Stiverne behind his jab and tee off on him all night until he scores a KO. That part I was wrong about. Stiverne's durability at the time deserves a higher score, but based solely on skillset, Stiverne is around Whyte level. I didn't rate Stiverne as highly as most of you did, but he still deserves full credit for the win, especially since most thought he wouldn't make it past him.

    I've already said I think Wilder beats AJ by KO several times for the reasons you listed, that's irrelevant in regards to this thread, its not a prediction thread. I'll do one of those if and when the match is signed.

    And I don't disagree with your last paragraph at all.
     
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  15. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    50 million dollars, 80 million in two fights guaranteed, potentially upwards of 150 million plus over two fights isn't good enough cannot say no money? Makes me wonder what AJ could do to actually get blame. There's just no defending that, the matchup must really be that bad though for them.
     
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