The No Spin Zone: A Fair & Balanced Assessment Of Everything Anthony Joshua & Deontay Wilder.

^ competitive, don't get me wrong - but I don't recall anyone producing scorecards with Takam up.

 

I can dig that, I can definitely see a scenario where AJ boxes to a win or even mid to late stoppage. I just don't trust him to go 12 without getting caught and think wilder slightly more likely to get off that big punch first

 

I feel you overrate Joshua's adaptability as I think he was let off the hook a bit by wlad and whyte but like you say, hopefully we get to see it rather than speculate soon

 

I didn't trust Duhaupas to reach the 11th, Molina the 9th, or Arreola the 8th, either - but somehow they all took Wilder's lumps for that long and were still hanging around. Joshua, whatever his vulnerabilities, is a few all-around tiers above the lot of them. So him reaching and completing twelve doesn't look all that far-fetched.

 

Fair points, for some reason I just think Joshua will sweep majority of the early rounds, get complacent then get caught in 2nd half of the fight. Just purely my gut feel though

 

I'm not convinced i overrate Joshua's adaptability......

You yourself claim that Wilder's right hand is the sole basis as to why Wilder takes the win.

People underestimate Joshua's performance against Parker.

He showed an improvement during those 12 rounds in his defence, and in particular, the ability to move his feet and neutralise what many consider to be the fastest puncher in the division.


That is what I mean by 'Adaptability'......

He can win rounds by being 'Boring', like Wlad, which is a positive, not a bad thing.

 

@IntentionalButt

It does make me think when looking back at those who lasted far longer against Wilder than we expected, can this version of Fury?

I wasn't impressed with him against Pianeta.....

But he's not got a 'visually impressive' style anyway.


Fury 2.0 still looked to move better than any version of Molina/Arreola/Duhuapas......

I just don't know if he still has the edge he had pre-Wlad.

 

I haven't seen the Pianeta fight but the Fury that beat Wlad can tiptoe carefully around Wilder for 12, no problem.

It then just becomes matter of stylistic preference/bias among the judges...do they go for safety first silken footwork or ineffective caveman aggression?

 

Well that's the crux of it for me, I think Joshua needs to fight as disciplined as he ever has whereas I think he'll find the earlier rounds easier than expected relax and get caught.

We'll only know for sure if/when the fight happens

 

Fury basically did to Pianeta, what he did to Wlad.

But because Pianeta is obviously a much inferior opponent, he gets discredited.

But it's his style.....

 

But likewise Wilder has to show more discipline than he has ever showed in his entire career.

He's been caught by limited opposition like Molina, whereas Joshua has only been caught by Wlad and Whyte.


One false swing of that right hand, and Joshua times that uppercut, it's goodnight Deontay.


It's why I favour Joshua.....

I've seen it against Parker.....
Wilder didn't show me it against Ortiz.

 

You should know that is NYSAC protocol seen in several fights before hand. This after the commission lost a big lawsuit. That's how it goes down in NY. It's at the start of the round. That's the fact of the matter. Commentary being ignorant to the rules is no excuse. Ortiz had plenty of time to get Wilder out of there if he was indeed that close to being knocked out but that's another myth going around. Sorry not sorry but you don't have gotcha, in several NY fights I have seen this and it's to cover NYSAC's ass in any potential lawsuits if any fighter goes comatose again.

 

Ortiz didn't receive the same treatment after hitting the canvas in a previous round.


In my opinion, if you're desperate to 'check' a boxer's health, you do it when he first returns to the corner.

You pause the fight, then allow the break between rounds to occur, then you begin the next round.

 

Not as bad as my scorecard yesterday. I had P ianeta 8 rounds to 2 over Fury. Drove a couple people nuts. On purpose, of course.