DEONTAY WILDER: The “Science” Of Boxing is a MYTH!

The Fury fight is exciting as hell in its own right. One, due to the talent matchup, and two because its for the lineal championship.

 

You know what I love about being educated and having a bunch of scientific relatives with multiple degrees in biology, zoology, math, physics, Actuarial science, my wife's cousin is a surgeon etc.....is when discussing anything with any of them is they are always curious and rarely judgmental or of a superior attitude now understand someone with a Masters may be absolute in their beliefs but a Phd should never be absolute a good scientists is constantly seeking new knowledge no real scientists believes science is infallible or absolute they believe their always something more hence the never ending study and research of new ideas on the same subjects....now I am not saying you are absolutely not a scientist in some way but a good one constantly advancing theory into is contradicted by your posts and absolutist mindset demonstrated......?. For example my father in law is a molecular geneticist or was one he is retired but also held several degrees in math, anatomy, zoology etc....when discussing recombination of DNA his answer is never absolute because the sheer possibilities and combinations involved are enormous and therefore without DNA tampering science cannot calculate the sheer number of possible combinations to predict outcomes.

The sheer amount of variables involved in a KO as simple as it sounds is not so simple.....yes man is an animal with higher intellect....but to predict every variable involved to prove a theory and advance the science would be impossible at this point the combinations of variants are what makes what you say ridiculous to some very experienced and some very educated people.

Now speaking of assumptions beside your statement of being the only one who has the background is presumptuous....also to disregard the experience of trainers to understand the mechanics of power or how to develop the kinetic energy needed and the strategy of setting up the adversary to be in the position needed to succeed....I got news for you there are great minds and intelligence in different capacities out there. Carbine Williams a moonshiner without much of a formal education while laying in the sweat box in N.C. designed in his mind the carbine semi automatic design of rifle and had multiple patents adopted by the military and used to win world wars....his motivation? his single shot rifle could not shoot fast enough when the FBI raided his camp.....he was no Einstein but given his lack of formal education and laying in a box sweating away his transgression he was a genius all the intellect and potential laid their untapped in a poor hillbilly moonshiner not to be known without the circumstances that drove his invention.....necessity is the mother of invention just as incentive drives free markets.

Feel free and give us your credentials....I will be the first one to invest in a fool proof way to make KO power in every fighter.....if you can solve it I am in the incentive is their. By the way all Wilder is really saying in his discussion is an old saying explained "it isn't the size of the dog in the fight it's the size of the fight in the dog".

Now ballistics question the armor piercing bullet that the 925lbs is compared to is concentrated into a tiny space not spread out over the size of a fist am I right? the kinetic energy that travels through with the bullet through it's intended target creates damage in it's own right by the speed it travels through flesh for example. I was a weapons and ballistic type in my military profession of which I retired from and a war veteran of gun battles and fully understand the damage done by such a round but again this is not the whole story as I have seen men live through gun shots from the same armor piercing rounds of course the grain, speed and shape of the round vs a full metal jacket armor piercing round are considered as well. The point is the variations though smaller involved in shooting a moving man for example determine the outcome as well as the skill of the shooter. I used the Hornady method in calculating lethalityHITS = Bullet Weight^2 x Velocity / Bullet Diameter^2 / 700,000. In words, the HITS number is equal to the square of the bullet weight (in grains) times the velocity (in feet per second) divided by the square of the bullet diameter (in inches) divided by 700,000. I copy pasted the method for others to see.

 

Tyson Fury ain't going nowhere near Wilder for a good while yet and he knows it. Wilder will put the Gypsy King to sleep that i assure you.....

 

I think a 220lbs man can hit hard enough to ko anyone. A 185lbs man ?I'd say there are very very few that could.
Moore said Sheppard and Durelle hit him harder than Marciano.
Cockell said he was hit harder by other opponents but never so often.

 

We shall see. It is certainly seems a tenable model for success. Massive reach, height, an awkwardness and cunning (?) that let's him stay in a fight until he can crank all that leverage into power. Add to all that a true fighting heart. It has worked so far, but so far against middling opposition. And he was most recently within a hair of being stopped by a geriatric Ortiz... but again, he has heart.

 

Who was that extremely strange poster who used to leave multiple posts in threads that did not make sense at all?

Well.. He might be back

 

TBH I find your posts about as comprehensible as Ras Al Guhl's, except his have the merit of being amusing occasionally.I've nothing against you ,I just wonder WTF you are doing on a boxing site? I have enough attention here at home,5 kids, 7 grandchildren ,I come to this forum to escape it from time to time!

I think you have some issues Pal,and I'm not alone in that opinion.Have a nice evening.

 

The initial post in this thread is essentially indecipherable gibberish.

Anyway, Wilder will eventually be comprehensively schooled by somebody who possesses a higher degree of scientific boxing skill.

As Saoul Mamby so eloquently opined many years Ago -"The strong will defeat the weak, but the smart will defeat the strong. "

 

Had a hard time following him and the OP, but are we saying that skill is unnecessary in boxing?

I recommend anyone who thinks so to get into great physical shape without training any boxing and then go to a gym and spar a decent amateur. Tell him he gets 1 000 € if he knocks you out. Any takers?

 

What a great reply! Never knew the story of the carbine. Thanks for sharing it.