Rocky Marciano's so called punching power

I don’t have to provide proof the burden is on you to educate yourself. YOU literally verified everything I said lol I don’t get why you would think I need proof for. If you’re mincing words like “break” and “fracture” or “bone chip” that sounds more like an issue for you and your psychologist.

 

No when you make a statement the burden of proof is on you to prove it!
You came here thinking you were going to educate us on Rocky and got yourself schooled .The biter bit!lol

 

Marciano fought Moore and said Walcott hit harder lol

Face it, Moore thought less of Marciano's power because Marciano was past his prime in the fight

Also Marciano quotes:

"He was clever. He rolled with the punches and knocked them off with his shoulders and arms"

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=bP4FAAAAIBAJ&pg=1691,2640626&hl=en

If you watch the fight, it was obvious that Marciano struggled to hit him with a solid punch, even after the brutal round 8 swarming Moore covered most of them.

Also I literally posted a link to where Louis said that Marciano was the hardest puncher.

 

If you also want to know exactly what Rocky thought about the Cockell fight, here is him giving commentary throughout the entire thing.

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Cockell put on his extra weight really well.
He was able to box well comfortably in and out of the pocket with head movement and sharp countering.
And was able to use his footwork to stay on the outside and jab.

He also took countless skull shaking punches throughout the fight, showing really good durability and heart.

 

You call marciano past his prime v Moore yet Moore was the one who was 38...

You kind of sound ridiculous with that opinion

Not to mention the Moore performance is one of marcianos finest on film

 

I remember former middleweight light heavyweight 5'8 Bobby Cyz fighting Evander Holyfield and he gave Evander a decent go getting stopped on his feet, Evanders next fight was against Mike Tyson and few gave him a chance vs Tyson based off the Cyz fight but the result was a surprise Evander won by KO

Marciano fought 5 # 1 contenders ( many of them beat all of the big men in range of a title fight) the one time Marciano fought his number 2 contender Kockel because of split nose concerns in his last fight) Kockel may have been limited but he showed much more heart than many other contenders, Marciano was also not in the best best condition (for him ) and it was a fight that made him look bad but as bad as he looked he still won easily

Dempsey had his Willie Meehan (Doughboy), Louis had his Arturo Godoy , Ali had Doug Jones, Ruddi Lubbers,Chuck Wepner. All the greats have bad fights and then great fights after them.

Marciano still was lineal Champ, no split titles and defended 5 times against the #1 contender, pretty much unheard of and remember Marciano never drew the color line and did not hide behind split titles to avoid the best of his era

 

Lewis fought 10 opponents who weighed 216lb or less.

8 of them lasted to the mid rounds.

Does Marciano face too much scrutiny?

 

What are the mid-rounds? Does Mike Dixon lasting into the 4th of a 10 rounder count as "mid-rounds"?

Cuz during his prime run only Holy and Zeljko lasted the distance. They were 215 and 214 1/4 respectively, a couple pounds less than Big George when he bounced Joe Frazier like a basketball. All the rest of Lewis' opponents under this magical 216 limit came during is run up to contendership, the Greg Gorells of the world. And again, your definition of mid-rounds is a bit vague.

 

I never denied that Moore was past his prime too (though some fighters age better than others)

Marciano's performance was terrible... He had to rely on his goat tier stamina, rather than knocking Moore out in just a few to one punch like all of his other opponents

The Moore fight, as well as the Cockell one, are all I hear whenever I even have the AUDACITY to claim that Marciano had punching power.

Fighters can fall out of their primes for more reasons than just age. Marciano didn't care about fighting anymore (ergo he gained weight), he knew that Weill was stealing money from him and he had back problems.

 

Marcianos performance vs Moore was terrible? Do you need your eyes checked? Marciano’s round 6 vs Archie Moore is one of the most impressive performances of elite swarming boxing history!

“Knock Moore out in a few to 1 punch”

Archie’s Defense is far too great to allow himself to get caught cold by 1 Marciano haymaker. Marciano fought Archie the right way and dominated him

 

Like I said, he had to rely on his GOAT tier stamina and swarm. I prefer the Marciano that knocks people out in one hit, as when he swarms, you get people like Seamus who call him an attrition puncher

People fail to acknowledge Archie's defense even though (if memory serves) he literally created the cross guard

 

Seamus isn’t wrong...Marciano turned into an attrition puncher in 54-55 and it may have been his best style...he rarely lost rounds once he became a high volume puncher. Goldman turned Marciano into one for a reason...so he could score more points win more rounds..look at how much it helped him in the rematch vs lastarza? And how it enabled him to outpoint a very skilled boxer in Charles? Charles would have outboxed and decisioned a younger Marciano who loaded up too much on one punch. The ladder version of marciano was more unpredictable, craftier, and made the most of his lack of physical tools

 

Attrition punchers don't have 1/4 of their knockouts come in the 1st round, nor do they one punch knockout Rex Layne and Joe Walcott, or destroy Harry Matthews in 2 rounds. Attrition punchers don't cripple Carmine Vingo, and put him in a coma. Attrition punchers don't have Joe Louis call them the hardest puncher he ever faced. Attrition punchers don't have the Suzie Q, which Bert Sugar himself labeled the most destructive weapon to enter the ring.

Just because Marciano was known to swarm doesn't make him an attrition puncher

Attrition punchers have no power and make up for it with volume. Swarmers just punch in high volume, whether or not they have power.

 

You keep repeating the underlined and its just not true.
Louis credited Al Delaney with having hit him the hardest.
Bert Sugar was a bull**** artist who came from advertising ,what he didn't know about boxing would fill up the Atlantic!