Marcianos 3 minute bomb run on the durable Don Cockell

Slade's ko percentage is 17%, he had Cockell down 5 times . Tontini had him down twice his percentage is 22%.
Turpin conceded over 12 lbs to Cockell.

 

how do you know Cokkell might not have lasted four round so against Marciano on another night? Liston, Foreman And Tyson certainly could have finished off Don at their absolute best but who is to say for sure? If you want to go down that route Didn’t Tyson go the the distance with Quick Tillis after Witherspoon blew him away in one round? Sonny Liston 12 rounds with Machen after Mr Johansson brains him inside one round. Foreman too, there’s guys he took longer to deal with as well. These examples are foolish.

The world number Two always has every business to be in the same ring as the Worlds Champ.

And poor Don paid a terrible price for this didn’t he? When the corner wants to pull out a fighter, surely this is the moment a fight should end. They know the limitations, having trained the fighter.

 

Each fighter is entitled to an assumption based their own particular experience. Having been unconscious for as long as he was Would (or did in fact) Jersey Joe Walcott call Marciano a harder puncher than Joe Louis?

Rocky used grinding tactics on Moore because he was so slippery. He still put him on his ass umpteen times didn’t he?

Ezzard Charles iced Moore with a classic one punch finish. Does this mean Charles hit harder than Marciano or does It just means Ezzard was able to land the perfect shot?

 

Would you take a bet that Cockell would last more than 4 rounds against those three ?Yes or NO?
I'd like a reply, an honest one if you can manage it!


Tillis would have pissed over Cockell.
Tyson was 19 years old when he fought Tillis and still green.
Marciano was 31 and the reigning world champion!


Cockell extracted a promise from his manager "whatever happens in there don't you ****ing well stop it".Brave, but not too confident. Cockell did not deserve his ranking and everyone who is unbiased knows it.Wins over a seriously diminished Lastarza and the hyped Harry Mathews don't cut it,he was a gimmeee defence.
He was given zero chance when he went in and every English sports writer predicted he would get beaten up and he was.
You make yourself ridiculous with this spin.

 

Staying on subject, here's a slugfest with a guy named Don:

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Marciano was landing but sometimes it’s not so easy to get the knock out.

Cockle may have been knocked out before but he looked like he had the ability to take a big punch with his thick neck and large head.

Marciano no doubt had great one punch power that he showed many times.

 

Sad how Don ended up

 

honestly, sure, Those guys should beat Don by about four rounds. Should. It dosnt mean if Don lasted a bit longer I would think much less of them. Why do you need to think less of Rocky?

There is no evidence Tillis would or could after all what was Tillis’s best win? Getting off the floor to beat Old man Shavers? Quick was a handy journeyman. That’s all. I recon Ted Lowry was the same hand writing.

Take that up with @edward morbius I think he is about the most even handed guy on this subject.

Boxing News fancied that Don could win on points. “Don can do it!” I think was their headline.

 

What kind of post is this??? What the hell is TOP?

My opinion of Marciano and Marcianos opponents is well regarded around here because I am a huge fan yet able to look at him objectively for the most part. I gave my opinion. I think many on this forum will agree with it. Chokelab is a poster whose filled with agendas and has been called upon it many times.

“Cockell proved himself against a few other greats fighters”

Like who? What other great heavyweights did he beat?


“Cockell was worthy title challenger”

He fought with a lot of guts and heart, but he was not worthy of a title shot

Marcianos camp bypassed Number 1 most logical Valdes to fight Cockell. Cockell was 5’10 with a 70” reach and a weak punch. Valdes was 6’3 with a 80” reach and a big punch. Marcianos coming off a bad nose injury..... Put 2 and 2 together.

 

Great stuff per usual!!!!

 

Great post but the truth is hard for some people. You can lead a horse to the water but you can’t make it drink.

 

Come on Susan, saying Cokkell put up a brave fight, that he was the worlds number Two is not an agenda. It is the fact of the matter. Don was rated that high. Don Did continue beyond the call of duty against Marciano proving the guy was as worthy to fight Rocky as anybody who took the champion a similar number of rounds.

If I said Tony Tubbs was Badly prepared against Tyson there is documented proof to back this up. This is no agenda either.

There have been a lot less worthy efforts put up from challengers for the title than Don. Sonny Liston, Walcott, Bruce Seldon, Michael Dokes all showed far less in rematches or title shots than Don did.

Trying to label me as an agenda poster because true evidence goes against your opinion is rather underhand isn’t it?

 

Cockell, who was a ranked contender, brought his A game against Marciano, as lesser fighters sometimes do when given a chance to contend for the title.

Marciano didn't bring his A game, but was still able to get warmed up and eventually overwhelmed DC in the 8th, throw and land a gazillion hard punches and eventually hang the challenger over the ropes for a count by the time the round was finished.

The fact that he was landing harder, better and cleaner as the round went on is kind of impressive, given the volume he threw during that round.

 

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I haven't mentioned Charles in relation to Marciano I don't know why you brought him into the conversation.Walcott qualified his remarks and if you watch the footage I provided you can see it.
Moore by the way named 3 others as being harder punchers than Marciano whom he placed 4th as far as power was concerned.Your excuse for Moore calling Rocky a grinder wont wash Im afraid.Marciano had a stationary target against the ropes in Lastarza and he hit him with everything including the kitchen sink before the fight was stopped,with Lastarza on his feet.That fight epitomises a grinding attrition attack by one fighter against another.No amount of BS spin will change that!

• Life magazine reported: "Trying to knock the challenger out with one punch, the 29-year-old Marciano was over-eager and awkward. He lunged, butted, hit below the belt, on the break and after the bell. Once, he swung so wildly that he missed and slipped clumsily to the canvas. Outboxing the champion and avoiding his blows, LaStarza managed to win four of the first six rounds. In the seventh, Marciano changed his tactics, started aiming at LaStarza's body as well as his head in an attempt to wear the challenger down. He succeeded."

• The Associated Press reported: "Sliced around both eyes and bleeding from a cut on the bridge of his nose, the well-battered LaStarza took a tremendous beating in the last five rounds before Referee Ruby Goldstein wisely stopped the slaughter."

• The referee took the sixth round away from Marciano for a low blow.

• Marciano knocked LaStarza through the ropes and onto the ring apron in the eleventh round.

• "I changed my style of fighting in the seventh round," Marciano said after the fight. "I was behind ... So instead of throwing my right so much I concentrated on hooks and combination punches."

 

The fact that he was landing cleaner and more solidly is entirely due to the fact that Cockell had slowed to a walk!LOl