Repercussions of no 15 round fights and should we go back

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  1. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Uninformed, unknowing putrid prose from an idiot.
     
  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know this is a blood sport right? The whole intent is to hurt your opponent. Maybe tennis for you? Like Clint Eastwood said,"We are in the midst of p ussy generation"
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I have always felt we should go back to 15.
     
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  4. tinman

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    I think so. The extra 3 rounds is where a lot of the ATG's would start to truly show their class. Today if you have a guy drop the first 4 rounds or the first 5 of 6 rounds there is almost no room for comeback. You have to fight the perfect fight after that.

    With 15 you can abandon a failing strategy or make up for miscalculations early in a fight.

    Going to the body early so that the opponent is ready to go in the 14th used to something to witness. 15 rounds gave more time for the accumulation effect to continue. It also place a premium on showing up in shape and having good stamina.
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also do you guys think the lack of quality pressure fighters today is partly based on the elimination of 15 rounders? A pressure fighter will often times give away the first couple of rounds. But can't make that up with just 12 rounds.

    They also rely on attrition. A pressure fighter wins through accumulation and better conditioning. It's a lot harder to hold up to the immense pressure of say Aaron Pryor when they come at you for 15 rounds instead of 12.
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As a fan, hell yes.

    As someone who is for the fighters, no.

    The idea behind shortening the fights is that dehydration helps to cause brain trauma. If cutting of the three rounds has saved even a few lives, I can't imagine going back.
     
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  7. Hannibal Barca

    Hannibal Barca Active Member Full Member

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    Good post. Never thought about this before but this is something to consider. A 12 round fight tilts the balance to fast twitch fighters. A slow twitch endurance based fighter benefits from 15 rounds.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree. 12 rounds of pressure can be tough. 15 rounds from a nasty pressure fighter is devastating.
     
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  9. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. 15 rounds made the fighters prove who wanted it more and who was more prepared. A fight like Golovkin-Canelo should've been and should be a 15 round fight. Wilder-Fury or Joshua? Make it 15.

    I get that safety is a priority, but at the same time boxing isn't advertised as being a harm-free sport and the fighters know going in that they are putting their health at severe risk. The nature of the game is to hit and don't be hit...which applies to both fighters in the ring...which means both fighters are going to be doing hitting and also being hit. Plenty of tragic events have happened in less than 12 rounds. I'd guess that most damage happens in the gym and due to weight draining.

    When I hear "championship rounds" and it's round 11, it has yet to sound right to me, and I wasn't even around to watch rounds 13-15 live. Something more than just a belt being shown at the end of the night should separate the championship fights from fights between contenders.
     
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  10. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    In my list of all-time favourite fights, my top 5 are all 15 rounders and they all went past the 12th. So, yeah, I'm in favour of a return to 15 rounds!
     
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  11. HerolGee

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    superheavys would die out, hw boxing would evolve back into trimmer big guys, perhaps.

    but a lot of other factors have changed too, so maybe not.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Yes with an *. For title unification fights yes. There also needs to be an understanding that if one fighters is taking a beating, be more liberal on the stoppages in rounds, 13, 14, and 15.
     
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  13. NoNeck

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    No man should have to fight 20 rounds.
     
  14. BCS8

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    I think 12 rounds is plenty rounds for a fighter to show he's better than the other guy.

    I don't feel "cheated" for not having the extra 3 rounds.

    I bet the fighters themselves won't complain getting the same money for a shorter fight, either.

    And finally, brain damage. It does exist.
     
  15. BCS8

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    Not only that but I've noticed that my training injuries always occur when I'm trying to push at the end of a workout. Muscles are tired, full of blood, trembling with fatigue ... just that one more push ... hello! Rotator cuff injury. I may be reaching but I think a guy in the 15th who's been battered for 14 rounds, is going to take more damage from the same punch to the head than he would have in the first.