Who do you rank higher: GGG or Sergio Martinez

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately for you opinion I use facts and logic wheb arguing about Golovkin.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Do you know what the criteria for scoring a pro fight is? If not then this conversation is pointless at this point.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Maravilla was obviously slicker and more difficult to hit flush, with a good deal more hand speed and probably slightly greater accuracy (though Golovkin is fairly precise), while GGG has a much better chin and is better on the front-foot and has more power (though Martínez's was quite good). Stamina is probably a wash, both in the A- or at worst B+ range, as Martínez had that base of cycling & soccer from his youth before taking up boxing late while Golovkin has been doing three minute rounds practically since he was in diapers; both are known to have, to some degree, faded late in some of their contests but it never cost them a fight or anything. Movement is also even, IMO, with Maravilla gliding effortlessly around the ring, melting into crouches, and uncoiling like a serpent to counterattack with surprising fluidity - while Golovkin is the modern day master of the Dempsey shift and is himself spends 99% of his time in the ring as its general.

    This is a tough one.

    (note: I haven't even touched on résumés, which is another whole debate that ultimately would factor into who's greater)
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Jacobs gets dismantled badly by Martinez , he wouldn't have came within an inch of victory like he did with Golovkin.

    How would Canelo's terrible conditioning cope against Sergio's endless workrate? Sergio gets a flat footed , gassed out Canelo of there in the late rounds.

    Sergio Martinez - Lineal MW Champ 2010/14 - 4 years.

    GGG - lineal Champ = Zero years

    Lineal Champs Sergio beat= one... Lineal Champs GGG beat= Zero.

    Golovkins resume is thin. On two separate occasions , two different governing bodies didn't sanction his fights because the opponents were so poor.

    GGGs resume is more comparable to an Arthur Abraham. Arthur has 10 defenses of a real MW title whereas Golovkin has only 7.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Williams got blitzed in the rematch. Almost always the better fighter will overturn a disputed result in the rematch.

    Will GGG get rid of Canelo like Sergio got rid of Williams in September?

    If Golovkin is a real ATG he will . If he's not he wont. :sisi1:sisi3:
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Golovkin ducks his mandatory challengers so that makes him a worse ducker than Martinez. .
     
  7. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    GGG, hands down. If not for the Paul Williams KO we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

    It was such a crack up, too, when Manny was saying earlier that Williams is the tougher fighter having come up under more difficult surroundings. Then crack. lol. So much for that theory.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Dino has finally discovered a new man-crush to replace Wlad!

    :duh:duh:duh:duh:duh
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I lean towards Martinez but it's very close.
     
  10. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :duh
    even Daniel Geale is a better win @160 as Williams
     
  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    H2H Golovkin beats Martinez.
     
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  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    you felt the need to repeat your opinion, interesting.
     
  13. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you think the fans and media would prefere to see Golovkin vs Derevyanchenko instead of the Canelo rematch :duh
     
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No , the fans and media would have preferred to see Golovkin vs Derevyanchenko instead Golovkin vs Vanes Martirosyan :duh
     
  15. Okin129

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    No he's not. Except Jacobs nobody on Golovkins resume could be argued to be on par with Paul Williams.