Rocky Marciano's so called punching power

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Shawn Kemp, Jun 27, 2013.


  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Sure, The fight was made at 13 stone between two current rated lightheavyweight contenders since It was short notice. You want to call that heavyweight ok. Dons next two fights were at lightheavyweight too.

    The article I provided gives one side of the story as to the background of that Slade fight. A possible explanation. Don had beat Marshall, finch and Beshore. The loss to Slade is a drop in form and pre dates the unbeaten 10 fight run above 196lb where Don legitimately built a heavyweight status.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Don's wife Irene accompanied him to the US when he fought Marciano, their private life should remain private imo Not be plastered all over magazines Cockell was never ranked number 1 at lhvy I don't think he was ever ranked higher than number 10 Slade was 6 &7.I know Cockell's story and none of it changes the basic facts of his career.
    He was never the number one contender for the lhvy title I don't think he was ever above no10.Mathews was unranked Marshall, his best scalp on paper was at the end of a very long trail. Cockell 181lbs for Slade=Heavyweight!
     
  3. mcvey

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    Why do you continually persist in putting words in my mouth where have I used the expression,"spent force"?
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I’m not sure that he was #1 contender at lightheavyweight either, it is possible the Marshal win projected Don as a potential challenger to Maxim. Who knows. There are a few sets of top ten even then. The BBBC and EBU did recognise their version of world champion after all. The huge Money Mills drew for Lesnevich title fights in London was certainly something promoters and champions would like to replicate.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    No I don’t think he would have been bypassed Bill
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Mills Lesnevich was a joke of a title fight with number 1 and number 2 rated Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles kicking everyone’s ass in the divison and being given the cold shoulder by Lesnevich camp

    Thankfully Charles got his revenge in 49 beating Lesnevich up so badly Gus never fought again. Charles in his book stated “I took it personally”


    Lesnevich was a fraud in the boxing ring post WW2
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    The slade knockout loss is embarrassing. He hit no harder than Paul Spadafadora did at 135

    Cockell has a weak chin
     
  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    And nothing about his credibility as a puncher in the real HW-world.
    Beside that, your last Tyson Video is a TERIFFIC fine peace of work!
    It will break the 2M as well.
     
  9. mcvey

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    He's a great vlogger,if that is the correct term.
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Well you have a very strong view on this that sounds about as unshakable as can be.

    I was only demonstrating the popularity and success of these events involving British fighters. post war world championship boxing was a huge market in London. Those fights were huge post war events that drew far more money than Charles or Moore could draw. The pre wartime champs definitely benefited from the situation.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    I think the view he has is called justice?
     
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  12. Gazelle Punch

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    All in all Marciano still holds the highest KO rate of any HW champion. Although Wilder def has a shot at taking that away. His opponents were smaller for the most part then modern or 70s era heavies so he gets taken down a few notches which is fair. But those who think he had no power need to have their heads examined. Could absolutely knock people out with either hand. Nice info on Don C. Like many pros a sad story and ending.
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I’m in the middle on this. On one hand there was only one champ per division and yes there were a lot of fighters good enough to be champion not getting the opportunity. On the other hand there was frozen titles because the champion was serving his country and once he got back there were bigger fights to make coming out of the war.

    If those guys were as sensational as Joe Louis or sugar Ray Robinson there would have been no issue at all.
     
  15. mcvey

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    How does this apply to Marciano?