Wilder's $50,000,000 offer to Joshua exposed - Lack of funding.

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  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I never believed Wilder had 50m. He couldn't even find 50m in monopoly money.
     
  2. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Even if it was all a legit offer from Finkel they must of known of all the avenues to go down to generate this money and make this offer to Joshua going down the BT Sport route was really guna kill that contract. That was never ever going to work and anybody who isnt super bias and has a brain would know this. That contract was a dead end, a complete waste of everybodys time. Fighters cross network from time to time to get a deal done but not when that fighter is breaking world records on money and tickets.

    It was a decent argument when the Wilder fanatics were arguing that everybody should know by now just how financially powerful Al Haymon is but thats all out the window cuz the money wasnt going to be coming from Al Haymon after all. And i said all along big Al wouldnt dip in to his own pockets for a fight that wouldnt recoup half of what he would have to put in to it to make it happen and if his fighter lost thats money he would never ever recoup from Wilder fights.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Dudes saying the same on page 7 as they were saying on page 1.

    The fight didn't happen, there was blame on both sides, Joshua is now out in the cold for a bit, but will probably fight the winner.

    Fin.
     
  4. LONDONBOY

    LONDONBOY New Member Full Member

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    Al Haymon hasn't even done one public interview in his life, that's shady which every way you look at it. He's a key component of Boxing worldwide. He has been sued a lot of times, he's not exactly a angel is he ?

    Are you British or American ?

    It's not really Showtime and HBO level. As both are quality US Providers.
    BT are crap, and have never done a PPV in their lives, it's actually quite a middle finger to Sky that, given they've been in Boxing just as long as HBO or SHOWTIME and done all the hard work in building up Joshua v Wilder
     
  5. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You've missed the point completely.


    There are 2 fast food outlets within 5 miles of me.
    They are rivals, as much as Burger king/Mcdonalds/KFC are with one another.
     
  6. LONDONBOY

    LONDONBOY New Member Full Member

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    You compared Bradley scoote or whatever the hell his name is to Joshua and Sky. You even used Saunders as a example to show that Network Contracts mean nothing.
    You like him are utter smackheads.

    Joshua actually makes a Profit for Sky. You think Sky would let him go, when he's probably the only reason why they're in Boxing. After AJ won that Gold Medal in 2012, simultaneously Sky started to pump out their Boxing output more

    Your deluded if you think he will ever fight Wilder on BT.
     
  7. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    If that's true it vindicates Hearns position that the time for a post fight in ring confrontation is AFTER the fight is signed.
     
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  8. LONDONBOY

    LONDONBOY New Member Full Member

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    I don't think that was the main reason as Hearn would have mentioned it. The real reason was Matchroom would have been cut out, and not recieved their usual % as they do from Joshua's fights.

    You factor in DAZN Involvement, Corrupted Vegas, and Hearn having a backbench role in Joshua's biggest fight and Rob Mccracked advising against taking the fight. It really isn't that hard.

    There are a lot of Network Issues with this fight, Hearn wants this fight in the US to be on DAZN. Wilder/Finkle presumably Showtime. Finkle probably wants to sell the international tv rights on a bidding process which includes the UK. Joshua has Contracts with the likes of Sky, Sponsor arrangements

    Eddie Hearn has to control the contract and commercial aspects of the fight, that is the bottomline. If he and his client dosent want to be hit with millions of legal disputes
     
  9. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So you agree then......

    A long winded way to go about it.
     
  10. LONDONBOY

    LONDONBOY New Member Full Member

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    But then i heard from Eddie Hearn's mouth saying in numerous IFL Interviews. "I think Joshua should go to Vegas". Then a couple of interviews later "This is for the British Fans, why should we take the biggest fight to America".

    Hearn did confirm numerous times, the offer was Legit. So again I don't know who to believe and i despise the lot of them. Close this thread man, we're grown men arguing about other grown men making millions
     
  11. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The offer was legit!
    The $50,000,000 was there!


    It wasn't until Warren started talking the other day about wanting the fight on BT that we all now know what Hearn was worried about.

    Why would Sky, who would lose way more than $50,000,000, allow Joshua to fight on BT sport?

    BT sport become bigger than Sky Boxing overnight.
     
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Contracts can be sidestepped for one-off events when all parties are willing, as Lewis Vs Tyson proved with two networks putting on a joint promotion despite a bitter commercial rivalry. Joshua's boss Eddie Hearn wasn't willing to investigate this possibility. No problem, of course - that was his call - but please stop making out it is impossible to suspend an exclusive deal. You come across as naive...
     
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  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I come across as realistic. If the best offer Finkel could come up with involved the fight going to a non sky broadcaster then that offer wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

    Anyone with any sense knows AJ not fighting on Sky is never going to happen. Finkel knows it, Warren knows it and I'm astounded they actually contemplated it.

    I'm not even sure why these HBO/Showtime joint ppv's are used as an example.

    When showtime and hbo have shared a PPV it's because both fighters were signed to different networks. I can see why in cases such as Lewis v Tyson's or Mayweather v Pacquiao neither network would be prepared to lose PPV revenue which their respective fighter generates.

    AJ v Wilder does not involve BT. Neither fighter is signed to BT so why would they be even in the discussion other than Finkel needed another partner to raise the money no matter how ridiculous it was.
     
  14. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do know before they all signed new contracts Sky only had exclusivity with Matchroom for fights on UK soil?

    Not sure how much weight is in this BT story but Sky could still have taken the fight.
     
  15. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Tony, aren't you supposed to be in Portugal training for Usyk? Log off ffs.