Some Interesting Averages About Heavyweight Champions

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  1. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are wrong, part ways... and You're right, the knowledge of nutrition and eating a better diet is a huge reason but genes is a part of it too, as is seen more noticeably in Dutch men over the years, having tall genes, and as we see in all living animals who have had the same diets, but is attributed to breeding … But what I said was is that food quality has gone down and that's just factual
     
  2. crixus85

    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali, 6' 3"? I recall seeing him on a chat show on You Tube with Clint Eastwood, where he, himself, said he was 6" 2".
    Johnny Carson show, I think.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The quality of food may have decreased ever so slightyl from some perfect ideal of yesteryear that was probably realized a week out of the year but remember that the crops of yesteryear also routinely failed and were exposed to blight and disease, making them not so nutritious. What has much more than made up for any ideal perfect produce from days gone by is the incredible distribution network that has emerged over the past decades making any type of food available in its freshest form year round and in plentiful quantities. This was unheard of just 50 years ago. Sorry, people have the opportunity to eat far better today than they did just a few decades past.
     
  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    It does tighten you up.
    Anthony Joshua the Neanderthal said so himself.

    That's the reason he lost weight for the upcoming Povetkin fight.
    He felt he was too stiff against Parker and couldn't move around well.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    There is no "it"... There is an insanely wide array of weight work and times during your preparation for a bout in which it is used. I would venture to guess that he did the wrong type too late in his prep for the Parker fight.

    Again, stop treating all weight work as just pushing meat and staring in a mirror.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    The 80s were when a lot of baby boomers children hit their physical prime. There were more people to choose from...big and tall people who were also great athletes instead of just big and tall.
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    No, your assumption that conveniently moves your goal posts is not true.
    He came in lighter than almost all his last 10 fights for the Parker fight.
    He still found he was too heavy and stiff.

    Hes been doing the "wrong type" for the majority of his whole career.
    The talent just caught up.

    This isn't the first time he's found himself to be too stiff.
    After the Brezeale fight he explained how he tried to move like Ali for a moment to pay tribute to the fallen legend.
    He said he just couldn't do it. He couldn't even imitate it.

    Your theory has been blasted down by Mr. S&C Anthony Joshua.
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Nine sentences that said nothing.
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Now this is a perfect example of irony ^
     
  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Anthony Joshua didn't blast down anything. Do you have any actual quotes where he claims specifically that weight-training made him too stiff?

    The idea that weight-lifting necessarily makes an athlete stiff is an embarrassing old wives tale. Only survives in certain out-of-touch boxing circles, and even there it's long been dying. The NBA and NFL are full of limber, explosive guys who've been weight-training since they hit puberty.

    Btw, boxers say the silliest things, don't they?

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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You're so invested in your narrative here that you are just producing drivel. Perhaps you should take a step back, research and try to find some objectivity in this discussion. There is a lot research out there, a lot of credible trainers.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Its often said in Europe that Americans do not get irony,I believe it!
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    For what it's worth, I have already commented on Joshua's shallow gas tank and that he could probably use some different focus in his training. He does seem to be carrying too much weight for fights that aren't blow-outs. Even a 40 year old Waldo should have finished him but he reverted to his safety first approach and let him off the hook. But I don't know. Every body is different. Some folks pack on the meat too easily, others can get super strong and not budge the scale.
     
  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I counted knockout ratio as wins to knockouts rather than fights to knockouts. Tyson has 50 wins and 44 knockouts. Also Marciano's fight against Humphrey Jackson, Jackson weighing 254lbs in the fight while Marciano only weighed 183lbs. First round knockout too
     
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  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Lmao he just needs to run more. More cardio work, more sparring. Marciano ran 15 miles before a fight and had GOAT tier stamina. Sad how the "evolved" athletes dont have the same athleticism as the 1950's man who worked hard

    Also average testosterone levels are lowering. If anything we're regressing.