Amir Iqbal Khan vs. Samuel Andrés Vargas Ariza

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 30, 2018.


"King" or "Bull of Bogotá"?

Poll closed Sep 8, 2018.

  1. Khan on points

    5 vote(s)
    21.7%

  2. Khan by stoppage

    15 vote(s)
    65.2%

  3. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%

  4. Vargas on points

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Vargas by stoppage

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A week from Saturday in Birmingham at the renamed Arena; this will be at 154lbs.

    Neither is ranked top 5 in this division by any major org. Khan is ranked #7 by the WBO and simultaneously ranked tenth & fifth by the WBC & WBA respectively at welterweight despite having not competed there since 2015 when he beat Chris Algieri. Vargas has fought twice in a row at the welter limit, and is the WBA-NABA champion there, and is 9th in the world in their rankings.

    For some reason this is scheduled for 12 rounds even though neither has any hardware to put on the line and this isn't an eliminator. I for one loathe this practice. Celebrity or no, if you're empty-handed and not lined up in the rankings for even an eliminator, you compete in 10-rounders, period.
     
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  2. Draperys

    Draperys Member Full Member

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    its Infuriating how khan continues too fight at super welterweight but will only fight Brook at welterweight in order to drain him, the dudes a fraud
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Dragging up a mediocre welterweight possessing barely average welter pop, no less.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Will it be at 154 or a catchweight?
    And **** Khan for taking tuneups at above 147, but refusing to fight Brook anywhere but 147.

    I really hope Eddie can work some magic and make the fight happen.
     
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  5. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan's gonna win, then claim the top fighters at WW and SWW are ducking him.

    Khan would get KILLED if he fought any of the top 154 lbers.
     
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  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Another squash match.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    This is at best a lateral move from Khan's last fight, against Phil LoGreco.

    The "Italian Sensation" is the same approximate size & skill level as Vargas, and entered the Khan fight with a 49% kayo rate having fought just thrice ever below the 147lb limit, otherwise primarily at 154lb but occasionally as high as super middle. Vargas is coming in with a 41% kayo rate having fought eleven times at welter and 23 at super welter.

    Both had lost thrice before facing Khan, and both were stopped by Spence. In terms of big names, LoGreco had also lost to Shawn Porter and Vargas to Danny Garcia. LoGreco's most ignominious loss was to Joseph Elegele, which is much less embarrassing than Vargas being pistol-whipped by journeyman Sepulturero Munguia.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No catch weight, just straight up junior middle.

    Wouldn't provide any advantage anyway, as Vargas punches like a featherweight at either 147 or 154.
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    This.
    It's a shame what happened to Khan: from a decent world level fighter who liked a scrap in the first half of his career to cherry picking not only opponents but weight divisions now....
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Allegedly he'll be dropping to welter again for the winner of Garcia vs. Porter - after mopping up each man's leftovers (Vargas & LoGreco, respectively) first. :nusenuse:

    He'd earn back some of my respect just for entering the ring for a Porter or Garcia II match, tbh.
     
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  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    And back in 2010-2012, he went after it! He went after the best guys. Of course it was all measured but still, he stepped up.
    But after that it was all calculated in order to get Floyd. When that fell through he stepped up to face Alvarez.
    He never was afraid to show himself. That is before you mention the name Kell Brook.
    It has been a complete **** show.
     
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  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I used to like Khan... now I have the Prescott fight bookmarked to cheer me up
     
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  13. DoubleJab666

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    Yes, Floyd managed to F-up his career without even stepping into the ring. Khan was dumb; to get on the gravy train you had to play by Mayweather's rules (or at least appear to be) - swallow some pride and swell the bank balance. Khan spent the best part of two years telling the world he would beat Mayweather easily, but not actually boxing to stay relevant. I guess he knew a KO is always just round the corner...
     
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  14. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Could you imagine Khan fighting Hurd? The size difference would be hilarious.
     
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  15. sjp17

    sjp17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you ever watch Khan vs Limmond watch that back Khan floored by a soft puncher then a dodgy count by ref , still annoys the **** out of me !
     
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