Is Deontay Wilder in danger of becoming this generations Riddick Bowe?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by OpinionOfACasual, Aug 30, 2018.


  1. Anne-Marie

    Anne-Marie Member banned Full Member

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    Get real. You can't disappear for about 3 years, announce your retirement half a dozen times, fight 2 bums and claim you're the real champ.

    What happens if Lennox Lewis announced his comeback against somebody **** in a 6 rounder. Would Fury still be lineal champion then because nobody beat The Lion before he packed it in you casual?
     
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  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali a top 15 heavyweight? Vitali isn't even a top 25 heavyweight. If Wilder beats Fury he's already surpassed Vitali.

    Wlad earned his spot and proved himself to be a great heavyweight over time, but Vitali's resume was trash. The two elite fighters he fought stopped him. He quit against Byrd and was too afraid to avenge his loss in a rematch despite having a rematch clause. He decided to fight a novice like Timeo Hoffman instead.
     
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  3. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I did not make that claim but, some did. Like I said, you're a newbie around these parts so let me assure you, some people actual beleive Fury is the man to beat because he is lineal.
     
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  4. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    notice how many times your said "if" then?
     
  5. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Wilder is certainly in danger of becoming known as a nearly man for sure.
    We know Bowen on his day could beat ATG level HWs but he didn't prove it over time.
    For Wilder to be on the same level, we need to see him land that right hand on someone with a) a respectable chin, and b) decent defence/footwork/athleticism.

    There are limited numbers of contenders he could prove this against but they are there and, unfortunately, Wilder has not fought any of them in a long career/reign.

    The jury is still out on Wilder and all the Ortiz's in the world don't change that.
     
  6. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let’s be clear here

    Deontay Wilders career will be defined by who he faces in his next 5 fights

    If he faces AJ, Fury and Usyk and wins them all then he goes down as one of the greats.

    If he faces the same level as before he faced Ortiz- then he will be seen as a joke.
     
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  7. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bowe struggled with Lennox & dropped his Belt in the bin.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bowe was a ducker, but Wilder has to look waaaaaaaay up to see Bowe.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which pretty much guarantees that he will be seen as a joke.
     
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  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    "in danger"?

    It would be an honor for Wilder to become the next Bowe.
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Wilder does retire if he's done half what Bowe did he should be very happy because right now they are not even close in regards to accomplishments. At least Bowe agreed to fight Holyfield and did eventually sign to fight Lewis in 94 when he was the B-Side and not the A-side.

    I get why some might see a comparison and he might end up being Joshua's Bowe as Bowe was to Lewis, in that it was the one big fight that should of happened that didn't. Only real comparison between them is that both have management teams that want to protect them from any serious threats. I don't think either Bowe or Wilder were scared to take the fight but their management teams don't have the faith in him like Lewis' and Joshua's.
     
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  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The problem Wilder has, is that he cannot reach the same heights as Joshua could, because he hasn't got that win over Klitschko.

    Both have defeated an undefeated highly ranked challenger in Oritz/Whyte.
    Both won their first title off of guys who never defended it Stivrene/Martin.
    But only Joshua has unified against Parker, and the greatest HW either could face, in Klitschko.

    Wilder cannot reach that Lennox Lewis 'I beat the best in my era' height, purely on the basis he wouldn't/didn't fight Klitschko.
    Joshua can.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i think aj's gold medal will mean more to his eventual legacy than beating an aging wlad in the manner that he did, exciting as it was.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Oh dear, a two win sequence.
     
  15. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Wilder beats Fury (who fades after a few rounds of exertion) ...
    then sometime after that, Wilder sustains recurring hand injuries in training ... and eventually decides to retire
    ... unbeaten.

    Imagine all the posts on this site, for years and years, saying 'if a fully fit Wilder had fought .... he would have ...'