Does a fighter taking PED`s help his ability to take a shot?

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  1. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Steroids are also used to build muscle in patients that are long term bed-ridden. You can be bed-ridden and still gain muscle.
     
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  2. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And Anavar is given to serious burns and AIDS/HIV patients for the same reason.
     
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  3. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I think people are missing the point when it comes to PEDs.

    They're called 'Performance enhancing' not 'Attribute enhancing' for a reason.

    PEDS alter performance directly, and indirectly.

    A PED which increases Stamina........

    Can you throw more punches?
    Can you move about more over 12 rounds?

    Both of the above occurring would also cause your opponent to tire more.....
    Which indirectly means you're likely to be on the end of weaker punches......
    Making it appear that you 'take a shot better'.
     
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  4. Aleks!

    Aleks! Member Full Member

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    No wonder you flunked out of medical school. Hell, thinking PED's do not improve punch resistance is half witted enough to be grounds for dismissal from barber and/or clown college.
     
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  5. Aleks!

    Aleks! Member Full Member

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    Personally I do not think setting oneself on fire is painful. Of course I have no experience with this and have no intention of ever doing so but I just know/think/feel it cannot possibly hurt.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    PEDs arent a medicine, I can tell you that for nothing. Nice start genius.


    I am not sure what you mean about me, but no wonder you didnt get to the stage of considering anything medical.

    No need to add anything else.
     
  7. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Choopid Isal just found out day Peds is wrong lol.
    Weak little cheat...boi
     
  8. guncho

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    I have never used peds. But just thinking about it i believe it would help.

    Reason being when i resumed training, after years of not training, i first spared and every shot hurt. And when you get punched believe it or not you get tired more easyly.

    After about 3- 6 months your body seems to adopt and punches dont hurt as much. And you grow confidence and have this feeling that u cant be hurt even if you do get hit on right spot just makes u fight harder.

    Had this same thing when i first stated boxing.

    So yes i believe if u use peds it would help u get stronger more confident and recover faster.

    When u get hurt your body shuts down, so if u are in great shape, mental condition u recover faster.

    Just listen to George Foreman in Bowe v Golota2 fight. When Bowe rised from kd George said that it takes great condition to rise from kd and keep fighting like nothing happened.

    Thats my view any way.
     
  9. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah

    It seems like fans believe they understand PEDs more than the drug testing agencies.

    You can't really test for PED claims. For example for this subject, chin and endurance, there is not a lab worth half a damn on the planet who is going whck a man hard enough to KO him, have him swallow some pills, whack him again and see if the fella can handle more.

    So, yeah there's plenty of room for folks to say X doesn't do or X hasn't proven but that doesn't mean what you know should be discounted.

    If I'm high on PCP and meth you're going to have a harder time stopping my druggy ass than if I'm sober. You already knew that. If I take a flintstones vitamin you'll have no harder time stopping my flintstones lovin' ass than if I hadn't. You already know that. A drug you don't recognize can fall anywhere between the two. It could have as major an effect as PCP or it could be as useless as a vitamin, the agency doesn't care, and it's not their job to prove any drug has any effect in any athletic competition.
     
  10. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Give it two weeks if the TEST is oil as it takes longer to impact the system where as the water based is within 30-48 hours
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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    I doubt there is any study ever been done to show if steroids or any kind of other PED could decrease the chance of concussion and brain trauma.

    But I wouldn't rule out the possibility. Some steroids are used to treat brain injuries as they can effect the inter cranial pressure of fluids in the brain, so maybe it could have some preventative benefit. Other PED's that might increase blood flow too the brain and might improve cognitive function to some degree to allow a person to stay conscious or at least recover faster.

    But as I said there is unlikely to be any proof, all we can do is speculate without the data to support or deny any claims regarding punch durability.
     
  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    When you take in moderation of course and you have to care for your body post cycle as well
     
  13. SpeedKills

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    Yes. Seriously, why do people wonder this? you really think taking a punch is just magic? Can you not look at a Samoan with their thick ass necks, giant skulls and attribute that maybe that's a factor in taking a punch?

    Strength = better chin. tucked chin = better chin. bracing yourself = better chin.

    without stamina, you won't have strength for long, thus even if early you are taking punches, once your tired and weak you won't be taking the same punches.

    Steroids = increase in testosterone, testosterone = increase in relative strength which = a better chin.

    not fuking rocket science. You should still tuck your chin and avoid getting hit otherwise unless you are in crazy shape, your neck strength/stamina will be worn down and eventually the punches will land with devastating effects.

    You really think a trained athlete doesn't have a better chin than an average bum off the streets? Now why would he have a better chin? Because he's built up those neck muscles to where he's got a lot of strength there. Now another question, why does a guy get fuked up by a punch he doesn't see coming? Because he's not ready for it i.e. not braced i.e. he's not flexing and actively using the strength required to stop getting all his sht fuked up.

    Such a stupid as question. If you don't think it affects your ability to take a punch you're a damn moron, sorry, but it's true.
     
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  14. SpeedKills

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    PED's don't just help you train longer etc. For starters it has been proven you get stronger and bigger on steroids while sitting on the sofa.

    Secondly, a lot of you downplay the mental aspect of juice and why a lot of guys become addicted to it. If you ever had a day where you feel like a million bucks physically, you could train all day, your strength is at an all time high, you're just absolutely hyped and fearless (due to how powerful your feel), well being on juice is like feeling like that all the time, naturally you'd come down, because the body can't consistently produce that much chemicals

    Not sure if this example is good, most of you that don't think PED's can have these effects probably don't even know what it means to get in good shape.
     
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  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The mention of PCP brings up a good point.

    There are drugs that won't *stop* damage to the body, but will help you ignore it. Painkillers, for example.

    There might also be substances that prevent KOs as well. I've heard that a shot of adrenaline can revive someone who's been knocked out, though I admit I have no knowledge of this stuff. Perhaps one of the medically knowledgeable on this board could tell us whether there are substances that turn off the brain's self-protective off-switch.