What's the point of cruiser weight if

Sorry, I couldn't make any sense of this post, really.

But, yes, most fighters at 220 and below could probably make CW today.

 

"Could" make or are there any weights on fight-night which proof that theory?

Sense about all this is that this thread is running in blabla-mode with an easy task to proove if this is correct or not.

Weighting a person is nor rocket science. Posting it isn´t either.

 

We do know that for example some MWs regularly weigh around 180 lbs in the ring and that WWs also have put on 20 lbs between weigh-in and fight night, so it's only a natural conclusion that bigger men also can.

It seems that draining 20 lbs before the weigh-in rarely is done longer than a period of some years before the fighter moves up to ahigher weight class. Draining 10-15 lbs is probably a more common for those who stay at a weight for longer periods.

 

Yes, I call them super heavyweights with skills. Sometimes I used the term semi-skilled super heavyweights.

Going out on a limb, Hrgovic could be the next super heavyweight with skills champion. He was robbed in the Olympics and extremely impressive in the amateur world series of boxing. Big, fast, durable, well conditioned and with skills. Reaching the level of Wlad or Lewis is a tall order for anyone, but I'm 99% sold on him having a rock of a chin, he won't take out early, that is for sure.

 

K2 are not a division.

 

Oh ok, so what superfight did Wlad duck?

 

If he got Tyson numbers why did it only generate a quarter of Tyson's paydays?

Was Joshua not the highest purse Wlad ever fought for?

Wlad couldn't and didn't match or even get close to such fights as Tyson-Lennox or Mike-Evander because he didn't have a rival to play the role. Why didn't he have a rival? Or at least a very well hyped hypejob to help produce a purse somewhere in the world of Tyson's? Because the division lacked interest and you can't build a hypejob with no one watching.

You're either saying Germany doesn't matter from a financial perspective because you can get Tyson's viewership and that only equates to a quarter of what Tyson was fighting for or you're telling me Wlad was as close to popular as he could get without a major rivalry to push the purses into Tysonesque heights. I assumed the latter because Wlad alone made somewhere in the ballpark of what Josh alone makes. Josh against Wilder is in the ballpark of Tyson figures presently according to all parties involved, something Wlad never achieved. I assume he never achieved it because his closest thing to a Wilder was either Povetkin or Haye, both of which were popular but neither of which popular enough to achieve 100 mil or even close to it.

 

I believe mike Tyson could beat Superheavyweights when he was 15-0 but yes, in todays climate the right division for Tyson would be heavyweight not Superheavyweight. He could win a heavyweight title then challenge for the Superheavyweight title.

From this day forward I see no reason to call heavyweights cruiser-weights. Their neither 200lb when they fight either.

 

Billy Graham told me Ricky Hattons optimum in the ring weight was 11 stone. So he fought in the ten stone class. Graham said Ricky would cut to 10.7 days before the fight and depending on the time of the weigh in, if he dried out he would register 10 stone for long enough to meet the weight. A glass of water after he gets off the scales and he’s immediately 10 stone 7 again. a lunch, a sleep and a breakfast Ricky would be 11 stone In the ring.

Basically if a 11 stone fighter only has to get seven pounds above the limit to make the limit through drying out this gives plenty of scope for everyone else.

Mike Tyson can make the heavyweight limit. Win that title at 218 in the ring, as he did, then challenge a Superheavyweight champion. Why not?

 

What the **** man? Calm down, I'm just speaking with you.

You brought up Tyson, I wasn't even thinking anything in the world of Tyson. It's natural to wonder if Wlad was getting Tyson's viewership why didn't Wlad get anywhere near Tyson's pay.

I asked if fella's logic could be used to explain a lack of interest in the division. You told me the interest in Wlad in Germany was on par with the interest Tyson held. I then ask if that's true why didn't Wlad get paid like Mike. You tell me you don't understand. I reword and elaborate. You bite my ****in' head off.

I don't understand the combative turn. I don't speak *****.

 

The Superheavyweight division does exist. It just has the wrong name right now. They call it heavyweight even though in the Amateurs guys that size fight in a division correctly called Superheavyweight.

The pros are out of line.

Yes, if Wilder is taking on Superheavyweights I can’t see why mike Tyson would not eventually. But he may as well win the heavyweight title first before moving up to Superheavyweight.