What's the point of cruiser weight if

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Don’t mind mcgrain, he can be quite prickly but he’s actually very fond of everyone.
     
  3. GlaukosTheHammer

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    Meh, this is the second time he's stepped to me with vagina first.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Yeah, i'm completely calm, and also just speaking with you. But I want the talk to be directed, because I don't have time for BS.

    But not money.

    The answer is that he was a) more famous in richer territories and b) more famous.

    No i didn't. I told you that he had "viewing figures that Tyson would have been proud of."

    This is completely different, but I don't have any real interest in explaining why. For your part, when you quote me, just quote what I said rather than what you think I said and it won't be necessary.

    And i've pointed out, two or three times now, that you were wrong to say that "No one was watching HW boxing". That was a mistake on your part. You seem less than keen to engage with me on this point than on any other point you can think of for any reason whatsoever no matter how tenuous its connection to the original point you made, incorrectly.

    So I guess that's that.
     
  5. McGrain

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    It doesn't; there is no such division as the Superheavyweight division in pro boxing. I understand the point that you are making, disagree with it, but have to insist on the former.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Just answer, and all will be well.

    When you try to run interference instead of just saying "yeah i made a mistake", yeah, you will get what you call "vagina first."

    When you get something wrong, instead of trying to qualify it just go "yeah, goodness" (preferably not "****" or "**** **** ****", we can't understand you then) "i didn't know that" or "i did know that but momentarily forgot it."

    I did it in this thread a few posts ago - someone reminded me that Joshua could legitimately be a part of the Klitschko era and I just went "yeah, you're right", I didn't answer a whole pile of quasi-related questions and avoid the issue.
     
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  7. choklab

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    I don’t think the Klitschko era will be looked upon as a golden era. It will probably go down as an important period where heavyweight became Superheavyweight.

    And if it was big in Germany and Money was made or whatever it passed without leaving the any real hankering for re watching any of it.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Certainly not.

    :lol: that would make you quite a visionary, wouldn't it?

    It was big in lots of places.
     
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  9. choklab

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    You can insist that there is nothing officially named Superheavyweight But you can not deny there is a division of Superheavyweights within a division of another name and that the term Superheavyweight is used to describe individuals within that group in comparison to actual heavyweights of earlier periods. Can you deny that Superheavyweights have taken over the heavyweight championship class?
     
  10. McGrain

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    Well it's not really insist is it? It's just gently remind of you the reality as seen by the entire world, just not you?

    And then I could point out that you're constantly referring to it like it's a real thing makes you look a little unhinged?

    And then tell you, without insisting or anything like, that maybe you should refer to heavyweight as cruiserweight and and superheavyweight as heavyweight - regardless of how you think of them inside your own head - and people would actually be able to understand you on the forum?

    I hardly need to insist...
     
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  11. choklab

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    You were big in lots of places? Where was this then, in each of the Shetland islands?
     
  12. McGrain

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    More just to point out that your latest burgeoning fascination (Klitschkos huge only in Germany) isn't something you should look to take forwards; it's factually incorrect and will make you look more confounded.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    Foreman wouldn't have been able to make 200. Same way Wilder won't.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I never said they were huge “only” in Germany. I said they were big in Germany just as you did. This cannot amount to a burgeoning fascination of mine just yet. (There is still time of course) yes, They were big in the Ukraine as well and their fights were broadcast everywhere. I dont believe even you think it factually correct that the Klitschko era will create any hankering to revisit it with fondness in the future.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    Wlad apparently exceeded $20 million to fight Fury. The fights with Haye, Pulev, Joshua (20+?), and Povetkin (edit: 20+ per McGrain)likely exceeded $10 million or cut it very close. Wlad was one of the best earners of all heavyweoght champs.

    https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/wladimir-klitschko-net-worth/
     
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