How well would Louis Ortiz have done vs Riddick Bowe`s opposition?

That's because he fought nobody that really mattered other than the undersized Holyfield. He ducked Lewis when it mattered, he was shot or close to it by the time Tyson got out of prison and won a title, never fought Mercer or Moorer or any other title holder other than Hide.

Had Bowe fought Lewis, Tyson, Mercer, Moorer, Ruddock, Foreman, Witherspoon on top of Evander his resume would of looked much better. Plus if he had kept himself in shape and not been shot by 96 he could of fought Tua, Ibeabuchi and Byrd. The era was pretty stacked.

 

Ortiz was ducked during the k2 era and only arrived on the world stage as it was closing out.
Stiverne won his belt during the K2 era cos Wlad was still champ when he beat Arroela.

 

k I'm glad you've corrected yourself!

Ortiz would have won a belt during the k2 era easily

 

Yep Ortiz wasted most of his career fighting nobodies. He turned pro at 30 and didn't have time to waste but it took him 5 years to face anyone decent. Compare him to Joyce who also turned pro late and he's already calling out guys like Chisora and even wants Ortiz at some point soon. Ortiz never had the ambition to win a title during the K2 era, the ability he had but not the desire.

 

Wlad getting sparked by Sanders and running form the rematch proves it.

 

Ortiz wasn't ducked nobody knew or cared who he was. He was just some old 2nd string Cuban who was done for doping the first time he fought another undefeated heavyweight as a pro.

Fact is when Ortiz turned pro the only Cuban heavyweight anyone noticed was Solis a guy they beat Ortiz 7 times as an amateur and Solis got exposed as a pro by Vitali. Nobody was looking at Ortiz a guy Solis beat easily again and again as a threat, mainly because nobody knew who he was.

 

Thats half true. He was WBA #1 for years despite nobody knowing anything about him. Nobody could figure out why Wlad was fighting the likes of Mormeck , Pianeta , Wach etc while there was a Cuban sitting and waiting on top of the WBA rankings.

 

Ortiz wasn't the WBA mandatory for years that's an exaggeration. He only got the number 1 ranking in the Sept 2014 WBA rankings and even then he wasn't the official mandatory as the WBA of course had their whole WBA regular belt thing which meant Povetkin was Wlad's WBA mandatory and the number 1 WBA ranked fighter is just the top contender for the WBA regular belt, so the idea Wlad ducked Ortiz is inaccurate.

Fact is even though Ortiz was number 1 he was never official mandatory until Aug 2018. Hence why in 2016 the WBA ordered he fight Ustinov for the mandatory position.

During the time Ortiz was ranked number 1 and not the official mandatory Wlad fought Pulev in a mandatory defence, had a voluntary vs Jennings and fought a mandatory vs Fury. He wasn't fighting Mormeck, Pianeta and Wach that was between March 2012 and May 2013, Ortiz was ranked between 5th and 2nd during that time, he was never ranked number 1, Haye was actually ranked number 1 during most of that time period probably because he beat Chisora for the WBA intercontinental belt during that period.

 

Prime ortiz kills hide and morrison and i loke both of them

 

Holmes managed to drop a decision to Oliver McCall.

Foreman would duck Ortiz like the plague.

 

Holmes' loss to McCall was 3 years after the Holyfield fight and even then it was a very close fight. 3 years is a lot for a fighter in his 40's. For example 42 year old BHop beat Wright convincingly, 45 year old BHop dropped twice and drew with Pascal.

Foreman definitely cherry picked a lot of opponents during his come back, he'd only fight Ortiz if a title was on the line, which obviously wouldn't of happened. But had it happened I think Ortiz's style would suit Foreman, slow, immobile and one paced would be perfect for Foreman.

 

I'll admit that an aging Holmes would be tough for anyone not named Mike Tyson. I'd still favor Ortiz though.

Foreman, on the other hand, would get diced. Alex Stewart did a good enough job. Ortiz is not stationary. He uses correct footwork that isn't flashy. Morrison managed to beat Foreman with crappy footwork. Foreman was only willing to fight decent fighters for a payday/title or if he saw some glaring weakness to exploit (Morrison, Briggs, Stewart). Ortiz is neither.

 

I think he has problems with them. Look what Hide did to another old man in Tucker. And Morrison blasted out old men like Tillis and Thomas in a round.

 

I said prime ortiz
Tucker was garbage when he fought hide and the same with tillis and Thomas.

 

They were garbage because they were soundly beaten? Tucker was far from garbage, old but still highly ranked hence he was in a title fight with Hide.