CST80's Random Boxing Scorecards For Modern & Classic Matches Depot/Discussion Thread.

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  1. rorschach51

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    Eusebio Pedroza vs Johnny Aba (November 17,1979) (15 Rounds for the WBA Featherweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Aba
    Round 2: 10-9 Pedroza
    Round 3: 10-9 Aba
    Round 4: 10-9 Pedroza
    Round 5: 10-9 Pedroza
    Round 6: 10-9 Pedroza
    Round 7: 10-9 Aba
    Round 8: 10-9 Aba
    Round 9: 10-9 Pedroza
    Round 10: 10-9 Pedroza
    Round 11: TKO

    My Score: 96-94 Pedroza (ATOS)

    Official Scores: (N/A)
    Winner: By 11th round Technical Knockout to retain the Featherweight Championship of the World, Eusebio Pedroza.

    With the camera angle they shot the fight at combined with the quality of the film uploaded makes this a somewhat difficult fight to score for most of the fight. Still a good exciting fight, with a surprising and scary ending. The ref should have stopped this fight in the 10th imo as Aba was getting beat up badly, but he rules Aba hitting his head on the side of the ring and not being able to continue a TKO. It was a push that sent Aba out of the ring, not a punch but I don't think Pedroza did it with the intention of that happening. Scary situation, but Aba who looked seriously injured after the incident was back in the ring winning within 4 months.

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    (Up Next: Victor Galindez vs Marvin Johnson for the WBA Light-Heavyweight Title) :ggg
     
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  2. rorschach51

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    Victor Galindez vs Marvin Johnson (November 30, 1979) (15 Rounds for the WBA Light-Heavyweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 2: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 3: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 4: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 5: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 6: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 7: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 8: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 9: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 10: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 11: KO

    My Score: 98-92 Johnson

    Official Scores: (N/A)
    Winner: By 11th round Knockout to win the Light-Heavyweight Championship of the World, Marvin Johnson.

    Johnson wins a Light-Heavyweight Title a second time, this time the lineal I believe. Yet again he would bite off more than he could chew in his first defense and get himself stopped by Eddie Mustafa Muhammad. It would be almost 6 years later before he would win his 3rd LHW title, and that time he would make at least one successful defense.

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    Up Next: Vito Antuofermo vs Marvin Hagler I for the Middleweight Championship of the World.
     
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  3. Sphillips

    Sphillips Active Member Full Member

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    I love this thread.
     
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  4. rorschach51

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    Vito Antuofermo vs "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler I (November 30, 1979) (15 Rounds for the WBC/WBA Middleweight Titles)

    Round 1: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 2: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 3: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 4: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 5: 10-9 Antuofermo
    Round 6: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 7: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 8: 10-9 Antuofermo
    Round 9: 10-9 Antuofermo
    Round 10: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 11: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 12: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 13: 10-9 Antuofermo
    Round 14: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 15: 10-9 Hagler

    My Score: 146-139 Hagler

    Official Scores: (145-141 Hagler) (144-142 Antuofermo) (143-143 Draw)
    Winner: There is no winner because the judges screwed Hagler over.

    I'm not going to type this paragraph again, both times it has been erased somehow, Hagler has 1 legit loss and no legit draws.



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    Wilfred Benitez vs "Sugar" Ray Leonard (November 30, 1979) (15 Rounds for the WBC Welterweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Leonard (that staredown after the bell when the first round ended :aplastao: )
    Round 2: 10-9 Leonard (same staredown, though Benitez didn't have the same look in his eye this time, he knew)
    Round 3: 10-8 Leonard (Ray putting some stank on that jab, snapping Benitez's head back & moving him with it)
    Round 4: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 5: 10-9 Leonard (better round for Benitez, but Leonard still landed the better cleaner work)
    Round 6: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 7: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 8: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 9: 10-9 Benitez (close round, Leonard might have stole it)
    Round 10: 10-9 Benitez
    Round 11: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 12: 10-9 Benitez
    Round 13: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 14: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 15: TKO

    My Score: 137-128 Leonard

    Official Scores: (137-130 Leonard) (137-133 Leonard) (136-134 Leonard)
    Winner: By 15th round Technical Knockout to win the Welterweight Championship of the World, "Sugar" Ray Leonard.



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    Up Next: Yaqui Lopez vs James Scott my final fight of 1979 & the 1970's. 1980's here I come :ggg
     
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  6. CST80

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    Yohannes Christian John vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 12 Rounds @ Featherweight, March 4, 2006.


    Round 1 Marquez 10-9
    Most of John's work caught on glove or slipped, Marquez landed the telling shots.
    Round 2 Marquez 10-9 JMM lands massive counters, crickets, John lands a jab, commentators cum themselves.
    Round 3 John 10-9 Near even round, both men landed a few counters, John was more active.
    Round 4 Marquez 10-9 Marquez blocked and parried most of John's work, landed some stiff counters.
    Round 5 Marquez 10-9 JMM snapped John's head with a few hooks, John lands jab, commentators blew loads.
    Round 6 John 10-9 Near even back and forth, neither man landing much clean, John landed clenaer.
    Round 7 Marquez 10-9 JMM landed a few eye catching counters, caught most of John's work on his gloves.
    Round 8 Marquez 10-9 Clear JMM round, John hit his back, JMM landed several hooks, jabs and rights.
    Round 9 Marquez 10-9 Clear JMM round, CJ landed like 3 punches, JMM worked the body, landed several rights.
    Round 10 9-9 Marquez took the round, even though he got a BS deduction, John flurried once, did nothing else.
    Round 11 9-8 John round by default, due to 2 point BS deduction, but Marquez landed heavier cleaner shots.
    Round 12 John 10-9 Another close one, JMM was wild and sloppy, John with the sharper cleaner work.

    114-111 Marquez


    Anyone who scored this for John is a ****ing crackpot (sorry to any friends of mine on here :lol:) or at the very least, you should rewatch it, John danced around like a little fairy and barely landed a clean punch, even his flurries barely connected, sure he made Marquez miss quite a bit and tried to beat him at his own game, well he didn't. John was very inaccurate, many of his shots were wild or cuffing, Marquez caught most on his gloves, and slipped several others, whereas every time Marquez connected it seemed to rock John back on his heels, John didn't win either of the rounds the points were deducted in, therefore making them 9-9 and 9-8, and the actual point that were deducted was home cooking at its finest, they weren't close to low, they were right above the belt line. Marquez got the shaft here. At worst it was a 113-112 for him.


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  7. rorschach51

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    Fair. I disagree, but fair. I had it 114-112 John. I had JMM vs Norwood 114-112 JMM, I had Barrera vs JMM 114-113 Barrera, and finally I had Bradley vs JMM 116-112 Bradley. Just 4 of the many controversial fights of JMM, he always made it close, and of those four I have Marquez with a record of 1-3.
     
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  8. rorschach51

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    Yaqui Lopez vs John Scott (December 1, 1979) (10 Rounds Light-Heavyweights)

    Round 1: 10-9 Lopez
    Round 2: 10-9 Lopez
    Round 3: 10-9 Scott
    Round 4: 10-9 Scott
    Round 5: 10-9 Scott
    Round 6: 10-9 Lopez
    Round 7: 10-9 Scott
    Round 8: 10-9 Scott
    Round 9: 10-9 Scott
    Round 10: 10-9 Scott

    My Score: 97-93 Scott

    Official Scores: (8-2 Scott) (7-3 Scott) (6-3-1 Scott)
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision John Scott.

    Ah...There's nothing like listening to Marv Albert and Kenny Norton verbally suck off James Scott for ten rounds. Yes he's a good fighter, yes he beat Lopez and was in complete command almost the whole fight, but my gosh he's just another contender. Seriously Scott's tough and has a hell of a gas tank, that's it. He's not some devastating Ko puncher, he's not some supremely skillful stylist. He's a grunt with a great engine, that's it.

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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I just looked up the ten point must system rules. You were doing that right and I got it wrong. In the cases where a fighter wins a round but gets deducted a point for a foul, you're supposed to score it 9-9 or 9-8. That would change things. Round 10 I'd switched to a John round because of the point deduction, basically giving him an extra point. My new tally comes to 114-111 for Chris John, although round five could have gone to Marquez in which case I can see 113-112 for John too. Those three points deducted for fouls really changed things, so I can see people being justified if they wanted to call robbery or home cooking. I just don't see it that way.

    In your write up, you complain multiple times about the biased commentary. I didn't know you spoke Indonesian?
     
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    Thabiso Mchunu vs Thomas Oosthuizen (September 1, 2018) (12 Rounds for the ABU Cruiserweight African Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Oosthuizen
    Round 2: 10-9 Oosthuizen
    Round 3: 10-9 Mchunu
    Round 4: 10-9 Mchunu
    Round 5: 10-9 Oosthuizen
    Round 6: 10-9 Mchunu
    Round 7: 10-9 Oosthuizen
    Round 8: 10-9 Mchunu
    Round 9: 10-9 Mchunu
    Round 10: 10-9 Mchunu
    Round 11: 10-9 Oosthuizen
    Round 12: 10-9 Mchunu

    My Score: 115-113 Mchunu

    Official Scores: (115-113 Oosthuizen) (115-113 Oosthuizen) (114-114 Draw)
    Winner: By Majority Decision Thomad Oosthuizen.

    I thought the stalker landing the harder cleaner shots should have won this time around.

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  11. CST80

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    I don't need to know how to speak Indonesian, the fact that I kept hearing John, Jab, followed by a long Andrew Dice Clay cumface sounds emanating from the commentators, that kind of says it all.:deal:
     
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    George Foreman vs Shannon Briggs (November 27, 1997) (12 Rounds for the Lineal Heavyweight Championship of the World)

    Round 1: 10-9 Briggs
    Round 2: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 3: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 4: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 5: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 6: 10-9 Briggs
    Round 7: 10-10 Even (Briggs round, he didn't do much which was why very late when Foreman hurt/stung Briggs with 2 shots I made it even)
    Round 8: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 9: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 10: 10-9 Briggs
    Round 11: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 12: 10-9 Foreman

    My Score: 117-112 Foreman (116-112 Foreman is okay too)

    Official Scores: (117-113 Briggs) (116-112 Briggs) (114-114 Draw)
    Winner: By Majority Decision to win the Lineal Heavyweight Championship of the World, Shannon Briggs.

    Don't know how you can give Briggs more than 4 rounds, it's easy to spot at least 7 for Foreman. Which is why it makes no sense that the judges scored this for Briggs. Foreman received gifts against Schulz and Stewart, maybe that's why the judges decided to steal the Heavyweight Championship of the World from him.

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    Tom Stalker vs Antonio Joao Bento (June 4, 2016) (10 Rounds Lightweights)

    Round 1: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 2: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 3: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 4: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 5: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 6: 10-8 Stalker
    Round 7: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 8: 10-9 Joao Bento
    Round 9: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 10: 10-9 Stalker

    My Score: 99-90 Stalker

    Official Scores: (100-89 Stalker) (100-89 Stalker) (99-90 Stalker)
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision, Tom Stalker.

    Probably the best Stalker has ever looked, though his opponent seemed like a mobile punching bag.

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    Zou Shiming vs Jozsef Ajtai (June 11, 2016) (10 Rounds Flyweights)

    Round 1: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 2: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 3: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 4: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 5: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 6: 10-8 Shiming
    Round 7: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 8: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 9: 10-9 Shiming
    Round 10: 10-9 Shiming

    My Score: 100-89 Shiming

    Official Scores: 100-89 x 3 Shiming
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision, Zou Shiming.

    I don't think Jozsef got the memo that this was a boxing match, and not a game of tag.

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    Sergey Kovalev vs Isaac Chilemba (July 11, 2016) (12 Rounds for the WBO/WBA/IBF Light-Heavyweight Titles)

    Round 1: 10-9 Kovalev
    Round 2: 10-9 Chilemba
    Round 3: 10-9 Kovalev
    Round 4: 10-9 Chilemba
    Round 5: 10-9 Chilemba
    Round 6: 10-9 Kovalev
    Round 7: 10-8 Kovalev
    Round 8: 10-9 Kovalev
    Round 9: 10-9 Chilemba
    Round 10: 10-9 Chilemba
    Round 11: 10-9 Kovalev
    Round 12: 10-9 Kovalev

    My Score: 115-112 Kovalev (116-111 is okay too)

    Official Scores: (118-109 Kovalev) (117-110 Kovalev) (116-111 Kovalev)
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision to retain the WBO/WBA/IBF Light-Heavyweight Championships, Sergey Kovalev.

    Much like everyone else who fights Chilemba, Kovalev did not have a easy time with him. Chilemba is a spoiler, he makes everybody look bad. It's impossible to judge how good or bad a fighter really is if you base it off a fight against Isaac Chilemba.

    A aside, Russia just might have the goat national anthem, and that man singing it for this fight did it just about as good as I've ever heard it.

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    Ruslan Provodnikov vs John Molina Jr. (June 11, 2016) (12 Rounds for the WBO International Super Lightweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Provodnikov
    Round 2: 10-9 Molina
    Round 3: 10-9 Molina
    Round 4: 10-9 Provodnikov
    Round 5: 10-9 Molina
    Round 6: 10-9 Molina
    Round 7: 10-9 Molina
    Round 8: 10-9 Provodnikov
    Round 9: 10-9 Molina
    Round 10: 10-9 Provodnikov
    Round 11: 10-9 Provodnikov
    Round 12: 10-9 Molina

    My Score: 115-113 Molina

    Official Scores: (117-111 Molina) (116-112 Molina) (115-113 Molina)
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision, John Molina Jr.

    The scores were way to wide. Yes Molina won, but not 9 rounds.

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