Serious thoughts on this Harry Greb shadow boxing video?

There seems to be enough footage of the guys he beat. One would hope that people were able to extrapolate from this, some kind of an idea, as to Greb's level - even without the record to support him.

 

Look, I'm glad that people enjoy your montage videos. You're obviously passionate about your videos and put a great deal of work into them. The production value and editing are usually excellent. I completely understand how having high follower and "like" counts would be good for your self-esteem as a boxing fan, especially given how often your views and analysis come under fire in this forum.

But I still don't get what you're trying to say exactly or what a poorly-edited video I threw together from an account I can't even remember has to do with anything. If you're somehow using that video to insinuate that you understand boxing more fully or deeply than I do, then I think you are greatly mistaken (and pretty ridiculous), and I'll leave it at that for now.

And I still don't get what Rumsfeld and his follower count have to do with you or with those of us who watch certain past greats with less hero-worship and a more critical eye than you do.

 

After careful examination of this video, I can confidently predict that each and every one of these women would obliterate Harry Greb within 3 rounds. Their excellent shadowboxing and 21st century warm up techniques, would overwhelm Grebs' old style boxing.

 

You could have a billion subscribers... You still compared Greb's shadow boxing to Lomachenko lmaooooooooo

 

Must have been fixed fights if this clown from the shadows boxing and sparring video was able to defeat them

 

Have you seen the thread where Reznick uploads a clip claiming Corbett is throwing a 5 punch combo in under a second?

Not surprisingly, it's only him who can see a five punch combo

 

If they weren't fixed fights, what would your theory explaining Greb's success be?

 

He must be a shapeshifter who turns into a nine foot lizard when in the ring, because my 13 year old sister could have beat the crap out that fella shadow boxing hahahah

 

Ok.

I assume you do not believe in shapeshifting lizard people. A dangerous assumption to make on the internet, but let's roll with it.

So...

Is it fair to say that for your claim to be correct -- that Greb's shadow boxing clip represents his true ability -- all of Greb's fights against good opposition *must have* been fixed?

 

Would you also agree that the only explanation for Greb's success against competent-looking filmed fighters is that all of those matches were fixed?

And that otherwise, there is simply no explanation at all?

 

You're getting very up in arms here.

It's my opinion from watching tape (forget Greb's awful training footage) that fighters from 90-100 years ago are much poorer compared to today. However, I'm not a 'modernist'. Far from it. I believe without a shadow of a doubt that fighters from the 70s, 80s, and 90s were better than today's fighters. I believe that's when boxing peaked.

Ps. The Royal Family are lizard nonces. Good day.

 

I'm not getting up in arms at all. Just the opposite.

Like you, I'm willing to entertain the idea that the fighters of the 20s didn't measure up to today's guys. I've thrown out similar speculations myself in the past about Johnson and Jeffries.

I'm inviting you to give me an explanation of the major inconsistency I think I see in your thesis. Something that makes more sense than lizard people. That's all.

 

Lizard people certainly make more sense than Greb's autistic shadow boxing resembling the looseness and movement of Lomachenko as Reznick suggested hahaha.

 

Ok, but I'm asking about your theory, not Resnick's interpretation of the film.

Let me lay this argument out as I see it, and you can tell me whether I've understood you or not.

We've got a goofy looking piece of film on Greb. You've drawn the inference from that film that Greb couldn't fight.

Yet we know that Greb beat guys like Walker, Tunney, and Loughran. Most people on the forum believe that these guys look good on film.

So it looks like you have only a couple options if you don't want to resort to "lizard people". These include:

1) The forum consensus about Tunney, Walker, Loughran, etc. is wrong. None of these guys look good on film. That's why Greb beat them.

2) All of those fights were fixed. That's why Greb "beat" them.

It sounds like you're moving from 2) to 1). But I just wanted you to make it explicit. Otherwise, there's an inexplicable Greb-shaped hole in the history of the 1920s.

 

I wouldn't bet on it!