How does Deontay Wilder hope to discourage, never mind KO Anthony Joshua if he couldn't Duhaupas?

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Can Deontay Wilder perform any better against Anthony Joshua than he did against Johan Duhaupas?

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I mean, Deontay Wilder landed everything but the kitchen sink on Johan Duhaupas. Maximum powered punch after maximum powered punch, flush on Johan Duhaupas's chin, body and face. But Wilder had a difficult time even discouraging Duhaupas from moving forwards and walking through his punches. Never mind even being able to drop. And even less being able to KO Duhaupas. Proving how much of an overrated fraud Wilder is when it comes to punching power.

    There's not much evidence of Duhaupas being too durable. Considering he's been put to sleep by a 6 foot 0, pudgy, chubby and fat blown up light heavyweight. So chances are, Wilder is a relative feather fist and is a light / weak hitting heavyweight with disgustingly / grossly overrated punching power. At least that's what Duhaupas made it look like. Duhaupas literally made it seem like Wilder has the punching power of a 10 year old, girlish little sissy pssy. So much so, that Wilder's career high number of maximum powered punches just bounced off Duhaupas with very little effect. Except causing some minor bleeding.

    Just to give you an idea about how overrated and lacking Wilder's punching power is. Johan Duhaupas, with less than half the number of landed punches, inflicted more damage on Deontay Wilder than Wilder did with around 1000 landed punches. Many of those punches Wilder landed, were with maximum power where he seem to put everything into those shots with all of his body. Whereas Duhaupas was literally injured on his right arm and was fighting, practically with his left arm only. In other words, fighting one handed. yet, still, using just that one arm for the most part, he still managed to inflict more damage on Wilder with fewer punches than Wilder inflicted with both arms and with far more punches.

    Giving someone a black eye (what Duhaupas did to Wilder) > causing some minor bleeding on someone (what Wilder did to Duhaupas).

    Let's be honest here! What do you think would happen to Johan Duhaupas, if Anthony Joshua landed just half the number of punches that Wilder landed on Duhaupas for over 11 rounds. Would Duhaupas even remain on his feet? Would he even remain conscious? Considering Joshua didn't have to land anywhere near as many punches to KO most of his opponents that Wilder needed to land on Duhaupas without even managing a single knockdown.

    And the main question is. Is there any reason to believe Wilder could do any better against Anthony Joshua? If yes, why?

    Anthony Joshua could do everything Johan Duhaupas can do. Plus, he is taller. Plus, he is rangier with a longer reach. Plus, he is physically even bigger and heavier. Plus, he has more and bigger muscles. Plus, he is physically stronger. Plus, he is an Olympic gold medalist and so forth so on.

    One can also rightly argue, that there isn't even any reason to even believe that Duhaupas is even any more durable than Anthony Joshua because there exists no evidence to believe such a thing. Thus, one can rightly also argue that if Wilder had such a difficult time even discouraging and hurting, never mind KO'ing Duhaupas. Then Wilder would have as much, if not even more of a difficult time discouraging and hurting Anthony Joshua. Along with having to worry about even more things. Such as more physical strength. More reach. More height and so forth so on.

    The Duhaupas fight, seriously brings Deontay Wilder's 'ONE PUNCH KO POWER' into light, perspective and question. If Wilder couldn't even drop, never mind KO Duhaupas with not just one punch, but a career high number of punches. Which added to around 1000 punches. Many of those punches landed flush with maximum power. Then how good is Deontay Wilder's 'ONE PUNCH KO POWER' really? And how does he do any better against Anthony Joshua?
     
  2. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Are there any topics being created these days which are not about Joshua/Hearn?

    Jesus.
     
  3. superstarstu

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    Americans are obsessed with Hearn and AJ
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    AJ`s chin is suspect.
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AJ's chin hasn't been proven to be any more suspect than Johan Duhaupas's chin. Or Eric Molina's chin. Guess what's common between Eric Molina and especially Duhaupas. Both guys who managed to take Wilder's punches without being knocked out.

    Any evidence to suggest AJ's chin is any more suspect than Duhaupas's?
     
  6. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just take a look at how 'suspect' Deontay Wilder's punching power is in this fight video:

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  7. ellerbe

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    Uh Wilder was coming off a bad injury before the Duhapaus fight. During that time he clearly did not have the same power as now.
     
  8. Luis Fernando

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    Sure! That was why he was unloading and windmilling with everything he had on his punches? Someone with injuries won't be able to do that.

    And punching power doesn't randomly or suddenly increase in a span of 3 years after someone had already reached their 30's.
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wtf are you on about. https://www.ringtv.com/376471-deontay-wilder-fought-with-injured-hand-eye-vs-bermane-stiverne/ Keep quiet sonny boy. You clearly did not even follow boxing in 2015.
     
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  10. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you stupid? He fought Duahapaus after Stiverne. Can you read? I said he was going into the Duhapaus fight coming off a hand injury.
     
  12. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, but I see no evidence that Wilder was injured DURING (key word being DURING) his fight against Duhaupas. So the question is, are you stupid?

    Wilder being injured in his fight against Stiverne has no bearing on whether he'd be injured in his fight against Duhaupas. Since they are two different fights in two totally different days.
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hey you absolute ******. Here is my orginal post "Uh Wilder was coming off a bad injury before the Duhapaus fight.". Your response to that was "That's Bermane Stiverne and not Johan Duhaupas. So try again!". You rode the special bus to school didn't you.
     
  14. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's your opinion, which isn't backed up by evidence. Evidence suggests that he wasn't injured for his fight against Duhaupas.

    If Wilder is windmilling with full extension, then it means he is in condition to punch properly. Which is exactly what he did. But his punches had very little to no effect on Duhaupas still.
     
  15. ellerbe

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    Do you not realize why your response was stupid though? I clearly mentioned that he was coming in after a bad hand injury and your response was "nice try! that was during the Stiverne fight".
     
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