How well would Louis Ortiz have done vs Riddick Bowe`s opposition?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Ortiz got ''outboxed'' in the gym by kickboxer who only took up boxing a few years ago.

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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    same old but no actual reply AGAIN. what a surprise, you cant engage so you ran off from the argument at hand.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Sorry I meant Luiz Ortiz.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Do you think light heavyweight legend Billy Conn could have lasted longer than Hide? Did you know that Bowe stated Hide was the hardest puncher he ever faced? Do you think Conn punched as hard or harder than Hide?
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ortiz isn`t a great fighter because he wasn`t that great vs Wilder.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I don`t think he`s got great fundamentals, but he`s got good offensive skills that slowed a little by the time he met Wilder.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I think by `92 and the second Bowe fight Holy was really good but before he put on the weight and became more mobile he was too small and easy to hit, Ortiz would have destroyed Stewart in better fashion than Holy did in his first meeting v Stewart, which was pretty average.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Did Matlala`s head weigh more than Bowe`s though?
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Bowe didn`t beat anyone great in his era apart from Holy, he should have fought Lewis.
     
  10. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didnt say that he outboxed him
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He did but he said it before the camera started rolling. I actually get the impression the kickboxer guy sparked Ortiz out.
     
  12. Odins beard

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    Funny you say this I was off work today and watched the Bowe v Hide fight and remember Bowe saying that.

    I don't think Conn punched as hard as Hide but he was better technically and maybe could have fiddled his way around longer.
     
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  13. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In this video you get impression that he liked training with him. Find it hard to believe that kickboxer would spark him in sparring but i guess everything is possible
     
  14. HerolGee

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    he would have done nothing against the top tier, same as for him against anyones resume.

    He'd have done very little against 2nd tier.

    Or do you mean back in the 90s, when he was prime?
     
  15. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ortiz was exposed by Scott/Allen, i've said it multiple times before.

    People go on about Scott running during their fight.....Well Allen didn't.

    Dave Allen did nothing but stand in front of Ortiz and took shot after shot.


    Ortiz is little more than a PED enhanced Dave Allen.


    It was at this point it became obvious that Ortiz had had little punch resistance.......

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    The man got stunned by Dave ****ing Allen!