Punching mechanics midsection stretch kinetic chain

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  1. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I remember my old coach looking at new guys wrists to see if they were more on the thick side or thin. Granted, this was an old guy with a very small gym in the backwaters of Antwerp, Belgium (which means "Jack ****" in terms of credibility ofcourse), but when I sparred folks, I swear I could feel the difference between the thick-wristed guys and the rest. Subjective as hell, but I kinda subscribe to it since then.
     
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  2. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No sht
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes sht.
     
  4. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You forgot to quote the part where i said i believe this is the answer to where punching power comes from. Jackass
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    how the phuck does that make it any better you menstruating imbecile.
     
  6. Wagoat

    Wagoat Member Full Member

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    Calm down people
    Ringking75
    Bandeedo
     
  7. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, there is an energy wave. Rocky Marciano's punch was measured by the US Army. 925 foot-pounds. It is an energy reading.

    Like i said, look into a Newton's Cradle. They are specifically made to display kinetic energy transfer.
     
  8. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't believe you actually read my post. If you did read it then explain to me how you believe what you said detracts in anyway from what I said.

    Newton's Third Law is why bone alignment matters. Nothing you've said addresses that or debunks it.

    :lol: And the article you linked to me is nonsense that doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about and comes from people who want to sell you golfing seminar in Orlando.
     
  9. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxing does not want the influence of physics in their gyms. There is no money to be made in boxing physics because there is no gym looking to take on a physicist not because physics doesn't have anything beyond speculation to offer. What I mean is you word it as if you believe science has tried and failed to define boxing or at least punching power. That is not true at all. Boxing has never paid to be tested and science is not free. Boxing is no more science friendly than the traditional martial artists who pretend to shoot chi magic. Gyms acts like all you're trying to do is debunk their theories and get them to pay for it. The hesitation is entirely on the boxing end not the science end. That's why the company sports science found a niche. They don't do proper science at all they do publicity stunts. They go so far as releasing their readings in units....as in 330 units of power. Ask them what a unit is and they tell you in jargon it is whatever they need it to be to serve the purposes of the publicity campaign they were hired for. That's the sort of 'science" boxing likes. The kind that doesn't prove anything and only serves to further darken already murky water.

    I am confident because what we're talking about isn't exactly complex physics. I imagine everyone in my field shares that sentiment. It's not difficult it's just that Freddie Roach is scared of being exposed as nothing but a bull**** artist. Nothing against Freddie I just pulled a name out of the blue. No gym has ever been confident enough in their own bull**** to have science give them a stamp of approval. To take that and turn it against us as if we're the ones what with our degrees, machines, and ya know...math, we're the ones full of speculation are we? Bit unfair isn't it.

    A fragmented kinematic chain dissipating kinetic energy is not speculation it's Newton Third Law. It sounds like you read a damn fine explanation and were talked out of it with semantics to me. It is a tad frustrating to see. Basically what you said to me is my entire field and all the things that came from it is not worth anything. If it's all speculation then what are we doing making robots in our likeness? Why even try when we can't even define the physics of the human body? Seems like if a scientist can't define a simple movement like a punch then there's no reason to even attempt a humanoid robot, ain't no terminator gonna run around saving Connor ass if there is no values to program it by. Other, bigger, industries rely on us but boxing doesn't need to because we are the ones full of speculation and unsupported bull**** backed by semantics and hand-me-down history? That's a bit bull****.
     
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  10. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nope. I said its all speculative. Some of us may like some explanations more than others but thats all it is. Speculation. My apologies if i came across if it was poorly worded.
     
  11. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    wow you really are an idiot. :facepalm:
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    compare post histories and realize what that makes you. see how many times each is correct and how many times each is shown to be talking out the ass. not hard for anyone to determine whats what with a quick post history, thats where the make believe stops and your reality begins.
     
  13. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yet my posts get liked at a higher rate then yours do since they started keeping track. gtfoh clown!
     
  14. Wagoat

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    Ok but how does this go into punching like how to get the most energy so to speak because you say it’s the energy and transformed into the kinetic chain to the opponent but how does this apply in the boxing technique? How to get the most energy so to speak very confusing because energy and Newton cradle very complicated for me
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    thats the second time you refer to likes as proof that you know wtf youre talking about, do you know mvc has twice the likes you do? how full of chit are you when mvc knows more about boxing than you do? explain the legitimacy of the "like", for us clowns. share the brilliance of your analytical mind with us dummies.:icon_popcorn: