Why do lots of members from the boxing community believe Wilder can KO any HW with 1 punch?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Luis Fernando, Sep 12, 2018.


Does Wilder have the power / ability to KO any heavyweight?

  1. No, there are heavyweights that can and will be able to take Wilder's punches without getting KO'ed

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  2. Yes, no heavyweight can take Wilder's punches

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why do a lot of boxing fans, particularly Wilder fans, believe in this ridiculous idea that Wilder can KO absolutely any heavyweight in the world with just 1 punch and that he has the best 1 punch KO power / ability in the heavyweight division and even in the entire sport? As if to say, Wilder's 1 punch KO power / ability is something that is unique to him only.

    When in reality, time after time, Wilder's '1 punch KO power / ability' has been exposed to not be as good or as high as some fans seem to suggest. Meaning, Wilder's 1 punch KO power has been exposed of not being good enough to KO EVERY heavyweight in the world.

    Let's look at the facts, shall we?

    1) Johann Duhaupas: Wilder landed a career high number of flush punches, maximum powered punches included on Duhaupas. Forget 'ONE' punch KO power. Wilder landed close to a THOUSAND punches on Duhaupas, who was literally moving forward most of the fight and at times, walking head first into Wilder's punches. In other words, WALKING RIGHT THROUGH many of Wilder's punches. Yet, Wilder failed to even score a single knockdown after 11 rounds of landing flush power punches on an opponent walking into his punches time after time. And Duhaupas, despite landing fewer punches, inflicted more damage on Wilder's face (giving Wilder a black eye) than the damage Wilder inflicted on Duhaupas (only causing some minor bleeding from Duhauapas's face). So if anything, that fight actually proved Duhaupas is a more powerful puncher than Wilder in terms of one punch power due to inflicting more damage with fewer punches. Even more so, considering Duhaupas did not land anywhere near as many loaded up POWER PUNCHES on Wilder as Wilder landed on Duhaupas.

    And this is Duhaupas getting dropped heavily by a 15-11-1 CW scrub who was on a 1-6 streak.

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    (Go to 3:12 mark of the video to see the knockdown)

    So where exactly was Wilder's 1 punch KO power against Duhaupas?


    2) Eric Molina: A guy with a glass jaw who has been knocked out cleanly in the first round against a 10 fight novice named Ashanti Jordan. Knocked out by Chris Arreola in the first round as well, along with getting stopped in 2 rounds by Anthony Joshua.

    Only Wilder needed the HIGHEST number of punches and the HIGHEST number of rounds to finish off Molina. And he still couldn't totally incapacitate Molina who was still able to get back up to his feet after taking 9 rounds of continuous beating and punches from Wilder. Someone who supposedly has the best / most powerful ONE PUNCH KO POWER in Wilder shouldn't need that many punches or rounds or more rounds / punches compared to other heavyweights, to finish off Molina when he has been stopped by other heavyweights with far fewer punches and rounds.

    So where exactly was Wilder's ONE PUNCH KO POWER against Eric Molina?


    3) Luis Ortiz: A past his best heavyweight in his 40's and with heart illness who was cleared to fight literally on the night of the fight. Yet, Wilder failed to totally incapacitate or keep that version of Ortiz down for the full count, despite landing many of his best punches for 10 rounds.

    So again I ask, where exactly was Wilder's 'ONE PUNCH KO POWER' that many are so profound of? Because I don't see it!

    Even against Audley Harrison, David Price showed greater KO power by knocking Harrison out cleanly unlike Wilder who got a standing stoppage.

    We only have one or two knockouts where we can say Wilder showed GENUINE one punch KO power. The cleanest and most legitimate one was Artur Szpilka. The others against Liakovich and Malik Scott looked controversial because they looked like dives and / or rabbit punches from Wilder.

    For the most part, Wilder hasn't proven he has any greater ONE PUNCH KO POWER than David Price, Johann Duhaupas, Anthony Joshua or even Alexander Povetkin. I just don't see it!
     
    Luis Fernando, Sep 12, 2018
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  2. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Cool story bruh...
     
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  3. dinovelvet

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    Fellow fighters , trainers , insiders , commentators etc , say Wilder is the most dangerous HW out there , its not because of his power , its because of his Sugar Ray Robinson like boxing skills.
    How can anybody overcome such pugilistic splendor , the dazzling skills , the flawless smooth footwork , the Ali like Jab - he's just too talented to ever outbox.

    We all know Fury isn't worried about getting clipped , because he can walk through Wilder slaps like they are nothing , he's worried he'll receive an embarrassing schooling for all 12 rounds. Wilder's power is a complete non-factor against Fury.
    Fury should have took that fight instead of Seffer Safairy , because only getting outboxed without taking any damage was the worst that could have happened.
     
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  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I strongly believe he has the strongest punch in boxing today. Please don't hang me.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On what planet was this a "dive" or controversial?

    He left the guy convulsing on that floor.

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  6. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: What the **** is wrong with you?
     
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  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looked like a rabbit punch to me.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then you don't know what a rabbit punch is.
     
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  9. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    The Malik Scott KO looked a bit iffy to me...

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  10. cslb

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    Shows what a hard puncher he is. A glancing blow on the arms is enough to take out a heavyweight.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought it looked iffy at the time. Because I just kept looking at the right hand, which hit his gloves.

    I believed Scott "flopped" for years.

    Then I saw Scott go down against Tony Thompson. Scott fell and propped himself up on the floor the same way. And Thompson hit him with a right hand under the ear on Scott's jaw.

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    If you look at the Wilder replay, Wilder hits Scott with the LEFT hand under the ear on his jaw on the other side of Scott's head before throwing the right (which hit his gloves). And Wilder's left hand to the jaw is what caused the knockdown.

    Scott usually takes a good punch. But if you hit him under the ear on his jaw, on either side of his head, that seems to be his "sweet spot."
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's not what put him down. It was the left before that.
     
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  13. Okin129

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    You have to be extremely powerful to render a grown man unconscious with one punch like Wilder did with Szpilka, everybody who claims otherwise, has never tried to do it.

    Glassjaw or not, knockouts like that just don't happen without great punching power, it's not possible and now GTFOH.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Szpilka was carried out of the ring, was hospitalized and basically had to take a whole year off before he could get back to it. That was a scary KO.
     
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  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Any punch landed behind the ears is a rabbit punch. Wilder's KO punch over Liakovich appeared to be a punch that landed behind Liakovich's left ear.
     
    Luis Fernando, Sep 12, 2018
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