Salvador Sanchez VS Manny Pacquiao

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This assumes that Sanchez is a better pure boxer than Morales. When that is not the case.

    As I said before Morales is on another level compared to anything Sanchez saw. And Sanchez fought some high quality opposition, but still falls short of Morales.

    Morales is Morales. Hell, I dont think Sanchez can beat him.
     
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Wilfredo Gomez.. The way he dismantled him was a thing of beauty.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree, but Gomez failed at 126. Their fight was at 126.

    And Gomez never beat anybody as good as Morales.

    Yes I admit Pacquiao was outboxed by Morales. That does not mean that Sanchez automatically beats Pac. Triangle theories in general are flawed. Especially when you think Morales would likely beat Sanchez too.
     
  4. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Sanchez fought at 126. The fight would have to be at that weight. Manny had power at all weights. So what? At 126 he was a green one handed fighter. If you think if he beats 126 Barrera that means he beats Sal Sanchez, you can have your opinion, but it’s certainly not mine.
     
  5. Drew101

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    I dunno...

    If Chava can defeat someone who would I would happily pick to defeat both Morales and Barrera at 122lbs (Gomez), absorb the best punches of an all universe power-puncher in Little Red Lopez, and keep his cool with faced with the educated pressure of Nelson (who would go on to be a Top 20 ATG at feather), he probably can withstand anything that Pac can bring to the table, save perhaps the southpaw style. Even then, he probably uses the straight right often enough to keep Pac from marauding as frequently as the latter might want.

    I don't think Chava stops Pac, either. Sanchez was never a one punch guy and Pac;s punch resistance improved dramatically by this point. But given his engine, composure (way more than Barrera), polish (way more than EM), timing and accuracy, I think he has enough to figure out Pac and pick him apart later in the fight.
     
  6. Drew101

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    Oh, but Sanchez was a better pure boxer than EM. Better defense, more compact puncher, a little more fluid in the ring. Probably a little better at dictating the terms of engagement, except against guys who liked to work off the back foot. It wouldn't be one way traffic, but I'd feel pretty confident about picking Sanchez to beat Morales more often than not at featherweight over 12, and every time they'd fight if the distance were 15.
     
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    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    :facepalm: Just do us all a favor and log off.
     
  8. tinman

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    He hit harder at 126, period.
     
  9. tinman

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    Fair post. Nothing wrong with that post here.

    Only major thing I disagree with here is Gomez just failed at 126. That's just what happened. So I'm not saying take away all credit, but there is a massive distinction between 122 and 126 Gomez.

    And a minor thing I might add is H2H Morales is better than Gomez. 122 I have no problem picking Gomez, but Morales peaked at 126. At his best be beats Gomez.

    And as good as Lopez was he still falls short of Morales and Barrera and maybe Marquez too. Which again illustrates Pac is more proven against high quality opposition. And this is leaving out Cotto who happened to be Pacs secondary defining career moment. The major one being of course Barrera I.
     
  10. tinman

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    From a technical standpoint perhaps though Morales is criminally underrated from a technical standpoint. Him being the only man to defeat a prime Pac would indicate that.

    My thoughts on that fight basically come down to Sanchez struggled against guys who can box and sit back and analyze. Morales is very skilled and a stylistic problem for Sanchez. More so than Pac actually.

    Hes longer and faster of both hand and feet. Hes iust going to flat out beat Sanchez to the punch.
     
  11. Reinhardt

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    126 was pre steroid Manny, Sanchez would grind him up over 15
     
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  12. tinman

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    Interesting that 126 is supposedly pre steroid Manny when 126 Manny hit far harder than 147 Manny or even 135 Manny.
     
  13. Reinhardt

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    well it was pre steroid Manny, he was hitting 126 pounders. Then he juices up and KO's 147 pounders.
     
  14. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sanchez's chin, power and endurance (he fought exclusively in the 15 round era) were superb but I think his defensive skills and overall boxing ability sometimes are underestimated. He had great upper body movement and one of the best counter punchers I ever saw. I watched him fight on TV and he was a huge talent. Anyone that thinks he couldn't fit right in with the best of today or that he'd get blown out by Pacquiao are grossly mistaken.

    With his chin and endurance he'd be a nightmare for anyone today in his weight range.

    Sanchez had signed a contract to fight Arguello - but fate intervened.

    Manny's a great fighter though. Both of these guys are greats. If Manny could avoid his bombs I could see him winning a decision but I sort of favor Sanchez. In no way shape or form does Pacquiao destroy him.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He has 1 KO at 147.