How much do the rarest fights sell for?

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  1. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: Historical preservation is a bit older than Napster.
     
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  2. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I couldn't agree with you more .. It is no different than acquiring knowledge or something of value through hard work … Does accountant do your taxes for free? It is simple as that
     
  3. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think its somewhere in between. I take it very seriously obviously but lets get real if boxing disappeared tomorrow you are still going to wake up, put your pants on, drive to work and put food on your family's table. In all likelihood you will find another hobby to devote yourself to. Its important to me. I enjoy it. I spend a lot of time and money on it. I do not, however, feel any obligation whatsoever to give something I have invested a lot into away for free. Thats stupid.
     
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    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Intentional Butt isnt talking about historical preservation. Hes talking about being able to watch it himself. I could take my collection, back it up on multiple redundant drives and lock it 10 miles under ground in a climate controlled airtight vault where its perfectly safe and hed still be whining about it.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You are stupid, stubborn old nitwits. This has nothing to do with whatever "me generation/get off my lawn" argument you want to shoehorn in here.

    There's no reason for a secretive cabal of a few old shitheads to be swapping their goods and measuring their sense of self-worth and superiority over the rest of the world by something that 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the rest of the world doesn't even know or give a **** about. The year is 2018, gentlemen. At this point you may as well give up the ghost and do the right thing by surrendering your libraries to posterity. Orrrrrrrrrrr - you can just clutch at your pearls until you die and the films end up tossed in a city dump (or, if a friend or relative or trading partner or executor of estate becomes their new temporary steward...until they in turn die, and then we're back to square one...eventually, down the line, SOMEWHERE is the risk of these fights being lost forever if they are not digitized and shared with the masses. You either care about that, or you selfishly don't. Simple as that.)
     
  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well let me put your mind at ease: My collection is perfectly safe. Its not going to rot or disappear. You just cant watch it for free. So now that you know my collection is safe and will stand the test of time you can relax and not ***** and moan about not getting to watch it on youtube.

    It is refreshing to know that you are selfless though and really just care about preservation. Thats honorable.
     
  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Well, right. It's definitely your property, and there's no historical preservation law that prevents you from doing what you want with it.

    Let me ask you this, since I'm curious and it might clarify some things for everybody:

    If the Smithsonian or the Library of Congress offered you the fair market value of your entire collection, to be put in the public domain as a national historical preservation project, would you sell to them?
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    But then wtf do you think you've backed it up for? Historical preservation counts for nothing if you're not preserving it for subsequent generations. The same way all classics of literature can be taken out at your local library, all fights should be put on YouTube or somewhere similarly mass accessible before somebody forgets to do that and dies without telling anyone where their secret bunker is. Again, the world has passed you by. That's quaint that you're clinging to your little trading hobby from the previous century, but all you're doing now is stubbornly depriving contemporary & future boxing scholars/journalists/writers/diehard fans access to a slim (and going forward, ever slimmer) margin of the overall televised fight ouevre. Just to be a smarmy, miserly dick.
     
  9. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Absolutely. Ive done it before.
     
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    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The vast majority of items on this planet that are being preserved for history's sake you dont have access to. So it wont kill you to not have access to this. In fact, I'll go another one: The vast majority of historical films, not boxing films but films in general, that exist, you dont have access to. In order to get access to them you would have to pay. Often BIG bucks. So again, relax, Ive got this. The films are safe.
     
  11. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya right .. what a load a crap this is .. do you put hundreds of hours of your time and acquiring knowledge in your work and at your job just to give it away for free??? Are you serious man? He doesn't owe anything to anybody. INCLUDING you … It's amazing how easy it is for someone to tell others how to live their lives and what to do with
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You put too high a premium on what you have, cupcake. I'm not interested. You tell me I can have all your stuff for a million and tomorrow I hit the lottery for a billion? I'm not doing business with you, on principle, because you disgust me (and, contrary to what you may think, none of my issue with your miserliness has to do with ME PERSONALLY wanting to watch all of your stuff. You're not a fucking magical leprechaun and I'm not after your fucking pot of gold, moron). You're free to continue viewing all your boxing footage as hard-earned commodities that you're not obligated to share with the boxing community even to bring all of it to your grave. In turn, I'm free to call you a cock for that.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That's BS and you know it.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, easy indeed, and easy for you & him to cluck about it and call me an entitled whippersnapper for calling you codgers out and saying that maybe you should be a little more self-aware in realizing the world has passed you and your obsolete little hobby by. :thumbsup: Easy for everybody to do everything. God bless America.
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    In that case, in my own inexpert opinion (that counts for nothing), you've fulfilled your ethical obligation.

    I don't think it's reasonable to expect you to shoulder the entire cost of historic preservation just because you happen to have deeply dug yourself into it financially.

    The place where it gets dicey -- though I understand why they might do it -- is if the fight film community tries to artificially prevent people from releasing film into the public domain by boycotting trading with anyone who does. That would be more of a cartel situation in a field where it's already historically fairly important to preserve this stuff. But if you're willing to sell your films to public entities, then that isn't really a problem for you, as far as I can tell.

    My two cents.
     
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