IF Loma beats Garcia, would this win be better than any win in Floyd's resume?

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If Lomacenko beats Garcia, would this win be better than any win in Floyd's resume?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you were trying to prove my theory wrong you should bring up a better example. Your example was just extremely weak. Do you not understand why it's extremely weak?
     
    ellerbe, Sep 13, 2018
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  2. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That doesn't matter when we're talking purely about size. So unless you actually have a source of the in ring weights of Hatton and Floyd, you have no real point here.
     
    LANCE99, Sep 13, 2018
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I never said it was easy. I'm saying that Loma turning pro at 26 and facing Salido isn't the same as him doing it at 19. Loma has accomplished a hell of alot with only around 11 fights.

    Stop it! PBF had no control of his career when he was with Arum. You sound ridiculous. And all of these fighters who so called he fought with the deck stacked in his favor would have never been favored over him anyway. Who 154 and down while PBF was still almost prime would be favored to beat him? Name them.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I agree he would. I never said he would beat Salido at 19 for his second pro fight.
     
    Pimp C, Sep 13, 2018
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    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes and no.. No in that the fighters on Mayweather's resume Mosley,Delahoya,Manny are the best of the best. But when he fought them they were not that best. He handpicked. So you can say no way is Mikey Garcia near that level at all or might never be, but he is more prime than they were. So yes on that. It is hard one to explain. When Floyd beat them they were not who they were before. And none of those guys have fought well since really. Maybe Manny.
     
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  6. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Do you honesty believe that Floyd would ever have jumped in with a Salido type fighter (one of my fave all timers I'll say aswell) if he wasn't with Arum?
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Their fight weights around that period are listed.
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Maidana
     
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    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes he did Maidana was better than Salido IMO and Cotto without a doubt was better than him to. Guerrero was more accomplished but I don't know about better.
     
    Pimp C, Sep 13, 2018
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No , trout fought better fighters than Broner and held his own against them all. Broner had the giblets beaten out of him by Miadana and was lucky to get the win over a faded Mallinaggi.
     
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  11. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Salido beat Guerreo easily, but the fighht was declared NC later. Salido was also better than Maidana IMO. Cotto was definitely better though.
     
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  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :facepalm:
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I have no idea what you were trying to talk about in that post.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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  15. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    post cereal.... :rolleyes:
     
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