The serious Golovkin/Canelo thread.

GGG will ko canelo with a body shot before the 6th round

 

As an occasional PED user myself, I’d say you don’t realize how much they are helping until you stop taking them. If Canelo was on PEDs last time, he has to be pretty shook about the way his sparring and training went as camp came to a close.

 

The obvious answer is he is getting old. 36 at his weight division is tough to remain on top. He won't have lost his power, though. That is last to go. But reflexes and stamina will have dropped off.

In terms of Canelo taking shots, I think it does make a difference when your body is larger. I know when I have dropped weight I feel less solid, more vulnerable. The suggestion that a body shot will take Canelo out is certainly more plausible when he is thinner in the mid-section.

But the one thing I think that will be key in this fight is if in reviewing the tapes GGG's camp honed in on the number of times he allowed Canelo to slip out to his left with GGG just missing him with big right hands could be the difference. We all saw it, over and over. Flurry on the ropes, GGG loads up with a huge right hand, but misses as Canelo slips the punch as he slides out to his left. If GGG has adjusted and steps to his right, taking into account Canelo's exit strategy coming off the ropes, that could be the difference.

 

What have you used and for what purpose? Tell us how it helped.

 

When you look at the shocker upsets, the ones you never saw coming, they almost always occurred with a fighter who was not the consummate professional, just an innately gifted fighter. Buster Douglas defeating Tyson in Tokyo comes to mind.

The consensus on outcome seems to be GGG by stoppage or points. Few believe Canelo will win on points this time since presumably there will be no Adelaide Byrd inserted. Too much damage would be done to boxing if this occurred again.

Since GGG is the consummate professional, it is highly unlikely he would be stopped by Canelo. He has always shown an iron chin. Maybe he gets hit too much at times but he has always been undented.

So outcomes probably look something like this:

GGG on points 40%
GGG by stoppage 20%
Canelo on points 30%
Canelo by stoppage 10%

 

I don't recall seeing GGG hurt at any point in the fight.

 

The only time GGG looks vulnerable is when someone flurries on him and he basically puts his gloves under his chin and simply takes shots to the face. Not hurt but the opponent is scoring points.

 

Didn't read, but gave you a Like anyways.

 

^^^This, but I do think GGG has slowed down some. 36 seldom beats 28 at the world class level. History shows us this, so remember that when GGG wins.

 

JacK Dauber says

When you look at the shocker upsets, the ones you never saw coming, they almost always occurred with a fighter who was not the consummate professional, just an innately gifted fighter. Buster Douglas defeating Tyson in Tokyo comes to mind.

The consensus on outcome seems to be GGG by stoppage or points. Few believe Canelo will win on points this time since presumably there will be no Adelaide Byrd inserted. Too much damage would be done to boxing if this occurred again.

Since GGG is the consummate professional, it is highly unlikely he would be stopped by Canelo. He has always shown an iron chin. Maybe he gets hit too much at times but he has always been undented.

So outcomes probably look something like this:

GGG on points 40%
GGG by stoppage 20%
Canelo on points 30%
Canelo by stoppage 10%

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