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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Few questions here, how accurate is the system?

    Has anyone actually studied it and how accurate is it?

    And how do they decide what a power punch is?

    Golovkin landed more shots in both fights, over double the amount of jabs in the rematch.
     
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  2. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It isn't accurate at all. Often widely off. Example. Calzaghe vs Hopkins. Compubox had Calzaghe landing 232 times. Video Analysis of the fight shows about 50 connects for Calzaghe. That is a huge discrepency.
     
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  3. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Any punch beside a jab is counted as a powerpunch. Its a misleading term for sure
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Round 1 Golovkin 10-9 14-12
    Round 2 Alvarez 10-9 19-12 Canelo 12 shots, were very flush.
    Round 3 Golovkin 10-9 16-12
    Round 4 Golovkin 10-9 23-14
    Round 5 Golovkin 10-9 22-14
    Round 6 Alvarez 10-9
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    Round 7 Alvarez 10-9
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    Round 8 Golovkin 10-9 21-16
    Round 9 Golovkin 10-9 18-17
    Round 10 Golovkin 10-9 26-20
    Round 11 Golovkin 10-9 18-18 Golovkin's 18 shots were visibly jarring.
    Round 12 Golovkin 10-9
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    According to Compubox. My scoring was pretty close to spot on. How reliable it is might be in question, but in this case, it was pretty obvious which shots were landing and which weren't, it wasn't very hard even for the untrained eye to see that a shitton of Canelo's shots were being caught on the gloves or arms of GGG, or whizzing by in a Lemieux vs. Saunders like fashion and missing by a mile.
     
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  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah it was very obvious that Golovkin was having a field day with the jab. I just can't believe they didn't mark his face at all because they were snapping his head back like crazy.
     
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  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this actually true? Any punch other than a jab is a power punch? Does that include body shots?
     
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  7. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Compubox is as accurate as those using it... And if we think of the old Olympic scoring that should tell you all you need to know
     
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  8. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It's the most objective analytical tool in boxing. I'd say that it's imprecise but accurate. It will generally be off two or three punches a round, but it will be off that much for both fighters, so the general picture will be preserved. And over the course of a whole fight, I'd say it's maybe 95% accurate. It's great because it gives people actual hard data with which they can make reasonable factual arguments, rather than their typical bull**** opinions. Punchstats offer quantitative analysis of a fight from several valuable dimensions, total punches thrown and landed, jabs, power punches, and divide's those numbers up into as many rounds as the fight goes so we can get a sense of how each round went for scoring purposes.

    I'd say that the judges are maybe 70% accurate, so compubox is a massive leap forward in terms of accurate assessment in the sport. I've seen compubox be far off maybe once a year or every other year. I've seen judges scores be far off almost every other fight. This is a far superior way to judge who won a fight in my opinion.
     
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  10. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    someone needs to do a slo motion analysis of all punches landed. It will be shown Canelo was gifted a lot that didn't land during the fight.
     
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  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I had the time I sure would, after the bull**** result what's the point? It's not going to change anything.
     
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  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I don't trust those slow mo videos. They count grazing blows, and the kind of guys who make them are generally so biased they aren't fair about what's blocked or not anyway. Anybody with the kind of time it takes to make them is heavily invested in the outcome and can't be trusted.
     
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  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice card, Miss Byrd.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah it is, its a hell of a lot more believable than 115-113 Canelo which is simply NOT FEASIBLE. There is no way anyone can find that one extra round to give Canelo, including 150 reputable scorecards that scored it for GGG, only 9 for Canelo across the interwebs, now which ones scream bias, the 9 outliers, or the 150 in the majority?

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  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Compubox is inconsistent to say the least.

    Sometimes they count grazing or deflected blows, sometimes not.

    Sometimes they count someone throwing out a triple jab as three punches thrown, sometimes zero.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Sep 17, 2018
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