Paulie Malignaggi is correct.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Wass1985, Sep 17, 2018.


  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His points are all on the ball.

    Golovkin clearly won.
     
  2. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What makes Paulie's opinion on this match-up even more substantial is the fact he tends to prefer flashier/slickster styles over fighters deemed to be punchers/pressure fighters. In other words he SHOULD like the work of Canelo more, but he can see the depth of Golovkin's boxing skills and scores accordingly.

    As for people pretending Canelo was the aggressor here, it's laughable. The fact he wasn't running doesn't mean he was the aggressor. Nor does the fact Golovkin went backwards at times mean he was on the defensive most of the fight. In a normal toe to toe fight both fighters will advance and retreat at various points. Often Golovkin was moving back to get space and leverage his longer arms and not be smothered. He was throwing the whole fight, and he landed the more hurtful shots clearly.

    The most absurd thing about this fight was the fact that a proven drug cheat benefiting from obvious corruption in two decisions and incredible promotional advantages against the division champion is now being lauded by a huge sector of onlookers as though all was legit these last few years. Goldenboy must be laughing their ass off at how easily these dumb lemmings are manipulated by them. It's been easier than they thought, I'm sure.
     
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  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post. With the rubbish talked on here you'd think Golovkin fought like Leonard did against Hagler.
     
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  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    These judges are almost anonymous yet can decide the outcome and boxing history.

    We should have open scores displayed live and each judge's name should next to that score. This way there is open accountability.

    Judges should also get air time on TV and on social media platforms and not remain anonymous. They should give pre and post fight interviews and be put under (public) scrutiny.

    This is one of the ways you will start getting a cleaner sport; pressurise the judges and take their anonymity away from them.

    These people cannot remain in the background and be so influential. It simply cannot go on any longer.
     
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  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    You mean holding somebody accountable in this day and age
    Good luck with that ;)
     
  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It will happen if you put pressure on the promotors and the commissions.

    People should win on merit, not because of nepotism or bias. That ultimately kills the sport and turns people away from it.

    Despite all the big money in boxing right now, its glory days are well in the past.
     
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  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    it's a sign of the times tell me other than sadam gaddaffi and osuma show whos been held accountable for shyte go on say manafort
    All scapegoats for other people not taking account ability for other wrong doings
    3 tier judging systems
    3 tier policing
    3 tier sentencing
    3 tier learning
    the world is fhookers
    Courption and self entitlement as eroded the fabric of a moral society
    then people behave like Billy Joe Saunders and people be crying about it Wtf do people excpect
     
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  8. ATG22

    ATG22 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree but the problem is that the only people who can take it to the judges are the very ones that are influencing them.

    If judges are held accountable, entities like GBP and NSAC and all the sanctioning bodies will crumble, because they are all corrupt. Networks roll with the cash cows. HBO rode GGG hard since he came to America. Once they signed Canelo, you saw Max and Jim gush over him. You best believe HBO wanted to see the younger fighter win (so long as they can keep him).

    Judge immunity is going nowhere. Only in boxing do they routinely put out controversial results and never be heard from about their performance. Adaleide Byrd will probably become NSAC president when Bennett retires.
     
  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    What utter nonsense.

    If Paulie was the only pundit speaking about this issue, then you'd have a point.

    But we know it's the common consensus that the judges were bribed and informed to find any reason to give Canelo the rounds
     
  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Canelo fans claimed Canelo outboxed GGG on the back foot in their first fight and never ran.......

    Yet in the rematch neither fighter went to the ropes and they claim GGG ran.....

    Embarrassing tbh.
     
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  11. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Canelo won easily.
     
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is sickening but I do believe public shaming and pressure can start turning the tide.

    The biggest issue here is that the casuals outnumber real fans 100:1 so we will never have numbers on our side.
     
  13. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Effective agression isn't marching forward getting hit.
     
  14. ATG22

    ATG22 Active Member Full Member

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    I think they get off on the shaming.

    Like, they actually enjoy it.

    Should be interesting to see what numbers this did. I doubt it did more than the first one, but if it’s even close they truly are impressive.

    Robbing us in broad daylight.

    Casuals really don’t care. ESPN+, DAZN, etc are gonna further the divide. Very few casuals will subscribe to see good fights, so they get force fed the big money fights that have commissions and organizations and judges and even referees influenced.
     
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  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Eggsfhookingzatly