Carlos Zarate was once 52-0 with 51 knockouts

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nope Floyd won that fight in a close bout. Not a robbery by any means. Not to mention he beat Castillo 2 even more clearly in the 2nd fight. Who is this better opposition? You forgot to mention Cotto as well. That Cotto win si better than the Mosley win. What about Corrales? Hatton? Who did SR beat for you to be so confident in that statement lmao. You're definitely in the minority thinking Chavez Sr has the better resume.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    of course im in the minority, the majority dksab, or fighting in general. i will put up what i see against what you or anyone else sees, any day. anyone think they see more than i do, we can make a bet on any fight coming up. the one who best describes beforehand what is going to happen in the fight is obviously seeing reality in a clearer light. i will put my money where my mouth is, thats the difference. anyone can claim they know what theyre talking about, all you need is a mouth for that.
     
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    Bro you just wrote a whole lot of nothing. Back your **** up. Who did sr beat that makes his resume better than Floyd? Camacho? Cotto is superior. Who the hell did Camacho really beat? A shot to pieces SRL coming off a 10 year lay off and boom boom manicini who was coming off losses and never the same fighter since killing that Korean boxer. Jose Ramirez? Now unlike Camacho I'll admit I haven't seen much of him but he literally lost every top fight he was in. Taylor? Randall? Sorry, I'm taking DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Pac, Corrales, Hernandez, Canelo, Mosley, Zab over sr's body of work. If you think sr has a better resume you're either a fan boy or like you said ydskab.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    By the way you talk about yourself, you should be a billionaire from gambling.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    this is exactly what i mean by "anyone can claim they know what theyre talking about, all you need is a mouth for that". what proof do you have that what youre saying comes from superior analysis? the fact that the majority of youtube analysts whos money i would take if they took my bet agree with you? i made my analysis several times and no opinions have changed over it, nor did i expect them to.
    like i said, i will put up my analysis on future fights, or let my post history speak on my past analysis, against anybody who actually wants to find out whats what.
     
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sure. I'm doing a bet with @qwertyblahblah and if my guy ends up losing that'll show credibility that I pay. Do you have any references that will back your credibility up? Before I do "trust" bets with people, I need to establish credibility. I haven't interacted with you enough to trust you.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    then just try me, prove i dont know as much as i pretend i do... or have someone you have more faith in try me.
     
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  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i have an account on ignition casino, they can take the bet for us and pay out the winner. it's not just the bet that will reveal the truth, but the complete analysis and prediction that will separate the lucky from the wise.
     
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  9. ellerbe

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    Sure. I've offered bets to people plenty of times. People I've known for years like @CST80 @qwertyblahblah and others. I know of your name and you definitely got the OG status on this forum but I don't know you that well personally. If you could get someone like CST to middleman I'd 100% be down to do some bets. I've asked CST before though and he turned me down, I can't really trust anyone else on this forum like that.
     
  10. ellerbe

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    Uh, I'd rather not use third party websites where I have to put in my personal information. I also don't know the legality of online betting in NY. I wouldn't mind coming up with a different agreement. If loser doesn't pay they get perm banned off this forum. If a mod is willing to do this I'll agree to it.

    You mean like how I said that all Canelo had to do was throw more punches to win the fight and stop being so conservative? You mean like how I predicted Lemieux would kill Spike(yes in hindsight it looks like an easy pick, but go to my thread).
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i understand, you dont want to deal with a reggie hammond. thats why letting a casino handle the money and payout protects everyone.
    i know i sound as arrogant as they come, but how else will someone that thinks i dont know what im talking about be motivated enough to put me in my place?
     
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  12. bandeedo

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    it doesnt even have to be money, ive only ever bet on boxing for fun at fight parties, my money works for me on the poker tables only. the point is to leave no doubt as to who is talking more out the ass.
    thats a start, i dont make predictions on most fights, but we can compare past prediction posts on fights we have predicted.
     
  13. ellerbe

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    I actually believe that most people on this forum know what they're talking about when they're serious. But I'm a competitive guy. If someone comes off as arrogant and has a attitude like they're better than me I ****ing love accepting their challenges. Thing is most people are all talk and won't put money up. I've been one of the few on here that is always down to bet money.

    Uh casinos? You mean online casino? Sorry I don't like to get involved in things I'm not really knowledgeable on. Especially for little online bets. I think we can a mod to agree on perm banning the loser. Or find a middle man. My question to you is can you trust me? Worse comes to worse, we start off with a 20-30 dollar trust bet. And up it once we gain trust. Thing is I don't really care about the money so much, it's more of an ego thing the bet. I'd rather lose and pay you though than to win and not get paid. Being ****ed over is not a nice feeling.
     
  14. ellerbe

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    Also we need to make the rules clear. The way you want to do it, who decides who wins? In your eyes Canelo "dominated" GGG. I thought it was a close competitive fight that could go either way. The majority on this forum thought GGG won clearly. There's no way I can accept your or the majority's POV. So let's say I predict that Canelo wins in a tight match against GGG that could go either way. Would I have won since it was a MD? Or would you win if you predict Canelo wins in a clear fashion.
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ive been here over a decade behind the image of a stand up guy, my persona carries weight that took years to build, its worth a lot more to me than a few hundred dollars. im not like tomato who has a collection of alts so he can just switch to one when he makes an ass of himself with the other. im not about to start over.
     
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