Thoughts on Canelo-GGG II

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Sep 19, 2018.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Hail.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Well 79% say GGG, over 3/4's majority. A draw was less than 20%, and 6% for Canelo. I could tolerate one judge calling it a draw for Canelo, anything more is well, just not right.


    Yes. Just like many historian types who favor Hopkins did not want GGG to win it.

    He might have been on something for the first fight. I actually think the suspension hurt GGG, as it gave him another few months to age.

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    Many media types are act like pet's just to get access to the most popular fighter. I see it all the time. And that guy who drives the PPV's is Canelo. So you know who's @ss they are going to kiss.

    That is odd, the best seats in my opinion are not 10 feet from the ring, more like 50 feet and up a few feet from the floor level. The bottom line is this, the vast majority see a double robbery. 25 years from now some 10 year old kid who has never seen this fight but likes boxing will look at the results, without the backdrop of the controversy. This is why I think boxing needs something in BOLD Type such as 100+ score cards on controversial fights so the public can pause. Then they can say oh, let me watch this fight and see for myself.
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Those of you who consider the fight a robbery: Which specific rounds did you feel that Golovkin absolutely, undebatably won?
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    These statistics are for the first fight?

    :lol: i mean you are doing it again? I gave you a series of reasons why scorecards favouring GGG are clearly more likely and you immediately reach for reasons for the opposite?

    I think so, personally.

    Do you understand this is a reason for media being AGAINST him NOT FOR HIM?

    You have now stated that media are 1) Personally biased 2) Professional biased 3) Subconsciously biased and 4) The best reason to believe that the official scorecards are unreasonable.

    Do you not see what you are doing to your own argument?? You have provided THE best argument, ever, for not trusting the media cards you are going berserk stuffing down people's throats as proof that you are right?

    That's fine; you're entitled to your opinion. But the seats that press are complaining about are the ones that they were on, not the ones that you prefer.
     
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  5. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least Mendoza and Mcvey agree on something. I'm pretty sure the seasons change more frequently than that.
     
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  6. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd be interested to see peoples scorecards for the first 4 rounds. Maybe I'm bias but every time I've watched the first 4 rounds I've come to the conclusion that GGG could very easily. Even after a couple of watches I'm finding it hard to give Canelo reasons to take any of the first 4 and I'm finding it very hard.
     
  7. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had GGG by 2 points also .. Wow you're in Thailand .. I've been there. Word of advice, don't go to Pattaya .. If you do, you will not want to leave . Oh man .. I'm in Colombia now.. Cheers mate
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I scored it the same way all three judges scored it:

    Round 1: Golovkin (close)
    Round 2: Canelo
    Round 3: Canelo
    Round 4: Golovkin
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I felt GGG won 8 to 4. Not a good decision at all.
     
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  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Bump.

    How did you guys actually score the fight? What rounds were undeniably, unquestionably Golovkin rounds?

    One person mentioned rounds 1-4. Anyone else?

    I'm starting to become convinced that most people who argue about/offer their scores for fights on this forum don't actually score fights round by round. Am I mistaken?
     
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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Likewise.
     
  12. mcvey

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    We agree in that we both think Golovkin won,but I dont think it was a robbery.Golovkin's own trainer Abel Sanchez stated it wasn't and that Golovkin failed to put the issue beyond doubt.
     
  13. mcvey

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    I was in Pattaya for some of the time, I'm pretty up to speed with the place. How's Colombia? I'm hoping to visit the Dominican Republic in April.
     
  14. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Jesus McVey, living the life.

    Don't forget to lie on your sun lounger at the beach under the canopy of a coconut tree with a cigar in the left hand and a Philadelphia Jack O'Brien biography in the right hand.
     
  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this is a fair request, given words are being used, like...

    '[Golovkin] could very easily [have won xyz rounds]'
    'obvious that the judges got this one wrong again'
    '[Canelo] was literally outlanded almost every single round'

    And, of course "robbery".


    If the judges were wrong and it was literally an obvious case of a bout, in which Golovkin could have easily won (every single round), then it should be quite demonstrable that it was a robbery.
     
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