Thoughts on Canelo-GGG II

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I thought Round 2 was an easy Canelo round. He landed the cleaner, harder punches for sure, had better defense, and was the effective aggressor, etc. You guys might be the only people I’ve seen score it for Golovkin.

 

It would have been incompetent, if they had scored it to Golovkin, on the basis of 30 seconds.

 

I also found fault with the logic that Canelo fought coming forward into the "puncher" so made the fight. GGG as a near 37 war old fighter made strategic decisions on how to fight Canelo. To start claiming from almost the opening round that the story of the fight was all about Canelo coming forward was bizarre to me .. GGG , who many including the Canelo team claimed was nothing more than a stupid one dimensional fighter changed strategy and showed he could fight Canelo from outside and outbox him. GGG showed a lot of diversification in his game and that is to his credit.

It was a competitive fight for sure but I feel GGG clearly outpointed him, won more rounds and dominated the last half of the fight. He also was the only fighter to seriously rock the other fighter. HBO's handling of the coverage and post fight airbrushing was deeply disturbing, I cannot remember one longtime champion , not Holmes or Hagler, lose in such a matter and be dismissed like Kellerman and Lampley did to GGG, calling Canelo an all time great middleweight .... it all looks like an obvious pile on for the $ and it reaks.

 

Agreed. One of the best shots of the fight in there, from Canelo, and some great body punching getting underneath Golovkin's guard. It probably didn't help that Lampley was calling shots for Golovkin that were clearly hitting Canelo's gloves; the opposite of what he was doing in the first round, when he was calling landed shots of Canelo's, as having been blocked (...come to think of it, I could have just as easily scored the first round for Canelo).

 

I took into account scoring punches and how effective they were. I've got no problem in picking a jab over a power shot if the jab snaps the other guy's head back and the power shot is grazing or thrown half-hearted.

 

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All 3 judges went for Canelo too.

 

These were few and far between.

 

Right, but Canelos body blows were clearly much harder than Golovkins jabs imo. The jabs were mostly pretty ineffective, inaccurate punches without much on them. Which is why Canelo looked fine after the fight despite supposedly eating so many jabs from a monstrous puncher. Golovkin had a very hard time solving Canelo’s defense.

 

You put this better than I could.

Personally I was disgusted by the contrast in opinions between the first fight and this one. Canelo was virtually running backwards in some spots and he got trapped on the ropes in others. The Canelistas made sure to emphasise how much defence counted and how important it was that Canelo made Golovkin miss.

In the rematch Golovkin was the one that moved back more - but NEVER on the scale of Canelo in the first fight - and he made Canelo miss wildly. I hear not a peep from anybody praising his defence and talking about how inept he made Canelo look.

I don't mind giving Canelo credit for standing his ground and fighting with heart.

I DO mind giving Canelo GGG's belts as a kind of participation award, though.

 

I've just seen this line:

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That's a pile, right there!

Since when did Compubox score defense and ring generalship? The service (or disservice) can barely count clean, hard punches correctly.

 

Canelo's body blows weren't as hard as you imagine, since Golovkin picked up the pace at the exact same time when those body blows should have been slowing him down. Clearly they were not effective. Whether that's due to Canelo not punching hard enough or whether that's due to Golovkin having an iron core is, I guess, up for debate. But what I can say is that GGG was never hurt and Canelo was clearly rocked.