Povetkin>Ortiz

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  1. Povetkin

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  2. Ortiz

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  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would like to see it matched up. We really don't know how good Ortiz is.
     
  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz would wreck Povetkin and between the two, improved since turning pro from his amateur days whereas I don't think Povetkin ever got any better. Ortiz is also bigger, stronger, more powerful, all around just a better package physically.
     
  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not so sure....

    Povetkin style wise poses a tougher match to Joshua...

    Ortiz is a southpaw and that makes fights easier for Joshua.

    Povetkin tonight vs Ortiz ? tough call but a different fight.

    Still have to think Ortiz on paper is the tougher guy but Povetkin really trained his butt ( will I get banned for that...smh ) off for this fight so?

    50/50 IF Povetkin showed me something...and I said this before the fight bc tonight povetkin really showed how good he is but he had an all star cast as sparring partners.
     
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  5. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Povetkin is 39. Ortiz is 76.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Pov would knock him out. Pov has had 166 fights amateur and pro and only lost 9 times. And all 7 of his amateur defeats were avenged so that means in all the time he's been boxing only 2 men have beaten him that he hasn't avenged his loses to and in both instances they were way bigger than him and held huge almost unfair physical advantages over him.

    Pov vs Wlad

    6'2'' vs 6'6''
    225¾lbs vs 241¾
    75'' reach vs 81''

    Pov vs AJ

    6'2'' vs 6'6''
    222lbs vs 245¼lbs
    75'' reach vs 82''


    And Wlad was allowed to get away with blue murder against him, Octopussing him half to death and using his size, strength, and weight to rag-doll him.

    And even though he was 39 years old and past his prime against AJ and had all those huge physical disadvantages to contend with and overcome, and was facing AJ in his backyard in front of an extremely partisan AJ home crowd of 80,000 plus, he put up a hell of a fight and gave AJ everything he could handle and some. I along with many others had him ahead on the scorecards at the time of the stoppage.

    And in both instances he was facing the #1 three-belt unified champions of the world, one of whom is one of the greats and dominated the HW for a decade. They, like he was, are both Olympic gold medalists too.

    Pov as a pro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ortiz

    And Pov had a superb amateur career

    Pov's amateur accomplishments>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ortiz's


    Amateur record 125-7 (all 7 loses avenged)

    Olympic Games
    Gold 2004 Athens Super Heavyweight

    World Amateur Championships
    Gold 2003 Bangkok Super Heavyweight

    European Amateur Championships
    Gold 2002 Perm Super Heavyweight
    Gold 2004 Pula Super Heavyweight

    His amateur accomplishments in total:

    August 2004 Olympic games Athens 1st place
    February 2004 European championship Pula 1st place
    November 2003 24th Copenhagen cup Copenhagen 1st place
    July 2003 World amateur championships Banghok 1st place
    May 2003 Russian championship Ulyanovsk 2nd place
    April 2003 22nd Gee Bee tournament Helsinki 1st place
    March 2003 International competition Warsaw 1st place
    February 2003 54th Strandja Cup Plovdiv 1st place
    November 2002 Russian championship Vladivostok 1st place
    October 2002 International tournament Warsaw 1st place
    July 2002 European championship Perm 1st place
    May 2002 Russian championship Rostov 1st place
    March 2002 International tournament Rome 1st place
    February 2002 53rd Strandja Cup Plovdiv 1st place
    November 2001 Oil cup Nizhne-Vartovsk 1st place
    October 2001 International tournament "Gold Ring" Podolsk 1st place
    September 2001 Goodwill games Brisbane 1st place
    June 2001 World amateur championships Belfast 5th place
    March 2001 Russian championship Saratov 1st place
    March 2001 International tournament Halle 2nd place
    November 2000 Russian championship Samara 1st place
    March 2000 Russian Cup Perm 3rd place

    Note that he accomplished all of that in just under 4.5 years.

    Before that he enjoyed a successful kickboxing career too.

    Kickboxing competition record

    June 2000 European championships (professional) Nicosia 1st place
    November 1999 W.A.K.O. World Championships 1999 Caorle 1st place
    May 1998 Baltic countries cup Kaliningrad 1st place
    September 1997 World Junior championship (under 19) Moscow 1st place

    Fill Ortiz's amateur accomplishments on the dotted line below

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    Alexander Pov vs Luis Ortiz in the amateurs

    Pov couldn't miss with his right hand as soon as it dawned on him that Ortiz had zero defence to it, and he dropped him (ref chose not to count it) and stopped him on the outscored rule

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    Serge kills it with pure science

    /close thread. Serge destroys
     
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  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Ortiz has been done for steroids you clown, not over the counter rubbish like Pov.
     
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  8. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    Povetkin looked very average against Price. I think Ortiz would have handled Price much easier.
     
  9. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you compare the 2 and their careers, both amateur and professional, what they have achieved and who they have fought then Povetkin makes Ortiz look like Charlie Z (who funnily enough is one of Wilder's best wins)
     
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  10. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well, at least povetkin.
     
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  11. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Maybe. It's a fight I'd sure love to see. They should match em' on the undercard of the Joshua vs Wlider/Fury fight.
     
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  12. Max Thunder

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    What I personally like about Pov is that he has not taken one soft fight in years even though he has had some periods of inactivity. A run of Joshua, Price, Hammer, Rudenko, Duhaupas, Wach, Perez, Takam, Charr, Klitschko. None of those are Ivica Bacurin/Daniel Martz level cans what Ortiz and Whyte have recently fought.
     
  13. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Povetkin is 39

    Ortiz is at least 50

    Young whipper snapper povetkin destroys him.
     
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  14. BCS8

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    Povetkin > Ortiz. Of that I am sure. I think he blows out Wilder too, even at this age.
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes. And don't forget he was facing very solid opposition when he was a fledgling pro too.
     
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