At their prime who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson and Rocky Marciano?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Do you ever answer questions or do you just ignore them?
     
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  2. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe in your imagination.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It's my opinion that Tyson takes Marciano out inside 6 rounds.
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You wrote this post before 6'2 Povetkin dropped a couple of strong rights over Joshua's jab, right?

    i know, Povetkin is a very different fighter from Ali, but Joshua tonight did look like he could have been breached by prime Ali's counters and in and out movement. He did not use his superior reach and height to as great effect as I would have thought.

    No problem with you favoring AJ over Ali, but tonight it didn't at all look crazy to me that the Ali that waltzed in and out of Terrell's longer reach would pose some serious questions to Joshua.
     
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  5. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson would be a lot lighter if he was training for 15 rounds. They are about the same size person. Marciano trained himself down in weight also. Tyson was not really much bigger then Marciano if at all.

    Tyson was a better combination puncher but I don’t think he had more punch varieties. Marciano pretty much threw everything and really varied his attack which is a underrated thing about him.
     
  6. reznick

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    He'd better.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think Tyson would be lot lighter, probably not lighter at all. He didn't lift weights or anything like that. He was always naturally very big.

    When Tyson made his pro debut, the championship distance was still 15 rds and Tyson was already at 215-220 lbs, the same he was when the championship distance was shortened to 12 rds.

    I don't think Rocky's variety was that much to write home about. He had power in both hands, but there weren't much of smart combos that caught the opponent by surprise. He bombed away until the other guy succumbed. Nt that Rocky didn't have some craft, but all in all his main thing was to impose his strength, power and work rate on the other guy. There's not much finesse in how he cut down Moore. Tyson showed a lot more when he opened up his opponents for the kill.
     
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  8. Big Red

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    Those extra 3 rounds you have to train for. A 12 round fight is a real feat of endurance another 3 rounds you have to train to be a different kind of animal. If Tyson did not alter his training for the 15 round distance he would literally have no chance unless he knocked Marciano out.

    Tyson was a lot more predictable then Marciano. He had a lot of speed but Marciano was always doing something different that’s how he was able to land so much. Marciano was not all that fast but he was one of the more unpredictable boxers. The rate he threw his diverse attack that had method to it was one of the main things that made him great. A lot of people don’t know that.
     
  9. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Considering the facts that Rocky never fought anyone anyone resembling Tyson as far as Mike’s size, speed, power and chin goes I find it pretty amusing how Rocky’s fans consider it a gimme that he would beat Tyson.

    Tyson was also an extremely bad fighter to face if you are 30 pounds lighter guy who can’t fight going backwards, cuts easily and who had gruelling fights with fighters like Walcott and Charles.

    Tyson by stoppage in three rounds or less.
     
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  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You're putting the cart before the horse. It has to get down the stretch first. Which is unlikely to happen. A prime Tyson would tee off on Marciano like a heavy bag.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I can think of a few Mike's that Marciano would have a legitimate chance against. Mike Bent, Mike Weaver, even Michael Spinks. But Mike Tyson in his prime.....no sir.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Right. In theory, Fraizer could have stopped George Foreman "down the stretch". But we all know, making it down the stretch is much easier in the saying than the doing.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I see a Tyson/Spinks replay for Tyson vs Charles
     
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  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So inconceivable that the HW with one of the best chins ever doesn’t get knocked out early...eye roll.
    i think Marciano at the same age as Tyson coming off a layoff would be fine . Just as Tyson was fine. Difference is rocky trained a lot harder then Tyson. That and people are obsessed with the “prime” mike tyson myth. He was who he was. There was a blue print for Tyson and once he was figured out he was beaten. By some great fighters and by bums (won’t count Tyson’s late years even). Marciano on the other hand that can’t be said. Tyson couldn’t fight on the inside or outside and once he faced any adversity it was night night.
     
  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson never stopped any elite competition quickly. All of his early knockouts were against low level competition, or old/shot fighters. Prime Tyson couldn't stop Tillis, who was 207 lbs and had been flattened by Whitherspoon and Thomas (prime). Tillis also took a first class beating from Page. If Tillis can take Tyson's power and also figure Tyson out Marciano, who is a far superior fighter to Tillis certainly would. Tillis realized Tyson has a preferred range and if you take it away he's harmless. Douglas and Holyfield also figured it out. Bonecrusher Smith even realized in the last round, but it was too late for him to put it to use.

    Maricano definitely make it to the second half of the fight.
     
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