Povetkin>Ortiz

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  1. Povetkin

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  2. Ortiz

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  1. Kahuna

    Kahuna Active Member Full Member

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    Povetkin is comfortably better. Not really close. Especially now, when Ortiz was in his 40s it might’ve been closer.
     
    Kahuna, Sep 23, 2018
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  2. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    the povetkin v ortiz amatuer fight was a good find
    never heard about it and now i have seen it.
     
    sean, Sep 23, 2018
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol I was being a bit naughty there as that was Alexander Povernov, not Alexander Povetkin. But to be fair to me, Povetkin was a much better amateur than Povernov. Povernov won bronze at the world amateur championships and Europeans, whereas Povetkin won Olympic gold, gold at the world amateur championships, and gold x 2 at the Europeans.
     
    Serge, Sep 23, 2018
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  4. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i saw the spelling but as the fight sounded like it was taking place in korea/japan i thought maybe it was just the spellingand that it was povetkin
    had me fooled.

    what is uncanny then is povernov has povetkins style and build off to a tee
    like they were cloned.


    the fight also showed ortiz limitations and why he was always cuba number 3 and never higher
     
    sean, Sep 23, 2018
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  5. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Who knows what happens in the depths of Siberia? Maybe they're pulling another Olympic boxing heavyweight out of the germination pod right now?
     
    Holler, Sep 23, 2018
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  6. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    I like this fight. I’d have to go with Povetkin though.

    It also makes the division more interesting, as it opens up questions at the top; of Ortiz wins, people would likely be interested in Joshua vs Ortiz more, and if Povetkin wins, and in a more convincing fashion than Wilder, people would want to see that fight.

    It would be good for the division.
     
    Geo1122, Sep 23, 2018
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  7. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ortiz dropped there by a CW.....

    He has a poor chin and is made for Wilder's right hand, like i've always said.


    Dave Allen swung one of the slower right hands i've seen and it wobbled Ortiz.

    Ortiz isn't even a Top 5 HW.....He's only rated by Americans because their HW standard is so low.


    European level > North American level these days.
     
    OpinionOfACasual, Sep 23, 2018
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  8. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mateee!!!
     
    yeyo monster, Sep 23, 2018
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  9. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Gun to my head if I had to choose, I guess I'd say yeah Povetkin might be slightly better. But they are probably closer to equal.
     
    rorschach51, Sep 23, 2018
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  10. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Ortiz is a ped king himself you know.
     
    rorschach51, Sep 23, 2018
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  11. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    :worship2: :lol:
     
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  12. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to 'murica cow Full Member

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    :thumbsup: It's always been my contention that the Klitschkos were a failed Soviet genetic experiment got loose from the labs.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol true

    yeah but underneath the headguard Povernov's as bald as a coot. I wonder what Povetkin would look like bald lol

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/figosport/6731536693

    Yeah, Ortiz did have a great fight with the excellent albeit now sadly deceased Ukrainian born but Russian citizen and member of the Russian national squad Roman Romanchuk, though. This is one of the highest scoring amateur bouts I've ever seen, if not the highest scoring one, and it's at HW.

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    Serge, Sep 23, 2018
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
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  15. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Povetkin beats Ortiz, it was a good name for Joshua.
     
    Odins beard, Sep 23, 2018
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