Top fighters' biggest technical flaws and physical limitations?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    What were some of the top/best/greatest fighters' biggest technical flaws and physical limitations?
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali rarely went for the body.
    Who gives a hoot.
     
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  3. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns had some notable chin limitations and wasn't able to muscle people as well as you'd expect for a killer of his caliber.

    George Foreman was there to be hit with quick, straight punches down the middle and had stamina issues.

    Manny Pacquiao has problems with fighters who give him angles and don't move come directly at him.

    Ken Norton became a pretty routine fighter when forced backwards.

    Canelo Alvarez has noticeable problems with fighters with quicker feet than him.
     
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  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I think what makes boxers great is when they can do every single thing at a certain base line level, while possessing a handful of exceptional traits on top.

    Flaws are everywhere.
    All you have to do is look at a great boxers footage, find any part of the fight where they get hit in the face, and then come up with a way they could've prevented it.

    You can mention V Klitschkos form.
    Mayweathers power.
    Foremans technique.

    But does it really tell us anything?
    They rarely seem to be exploitable flaws.
    Rather, it seems that when a great fighter fights another, they stick to their styles, and one does what they do best better than the other.
     
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  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Could you be more specific (re: Vitali and Foreman's flaws?)
     
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  6. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    haha I like the irony, but ok sure

    Foreman often lost his stance for big punches and attacks.
    And had minimal guard in order to bait attacks so he could hammer back.

    Vitali kept his hands low.
    And lacked coordination in his footwork.

    But why does it matter?
    These were more than made up for by their talents.
    They never lost due to these things.
    When they did lose, these flaws were just collateral damage.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Ali's biggest flaw was when he jabbed his right hand was not in the defensive position it was away from his body and chin,and Norton,courtesy of Eddie Futch ,exploited that.
     
  8. mcvey

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    OTE="Bill1234, post: 19431230, member: 14999"]Tommy Hearns had some notable chin limitations and wasn't able to muscle people as well as you'd expect for a killer of his caliber.

    George Foreman was there to be hit with quick, straight punches down the middle and had stamina issues.

    Manny Pacquiao has problems with fighters who give him angles and don't move come directly at him.

    Ken Norton became a pretty routine fighter when forced backwards.

    Canelo Alvarez has noticeable problems with fighters with quicker feet than him.[/QUOTE]
    Foreman had a problem with pacing himself I don't think his stamina was at fault.He went 12 rds with Holyfield at an advanced age without sitting down between rounds. Your other examples are well taken.
     
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  9. GordonGarner65

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    Foreman 1
    Never moved his head.
    Swung from low and wide
    Had no defence down the middle
    Telegraphed his shots
    Had no ability to change tactics
    Had a leaky gas tank
     
  10. GordonGarner65

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    Leon Spinks
    Used to leap out of the bedroom window and run to the nightclub and dealers, when in camp.
     
  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, they did.

    Foreman's losses to Ali and Young had a lot to do with how he lost his stance and his poor defense. He missed them with lots of punches, they had little problems landing on him.

    Vitaly's low left meant that Lewis's right didn't have too much problem finding its mark and tear his face open. Leaning back with your hands low is one thing against a much smaller opponent like Byrd, quite another against someone who's almost your own size.
     
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  12. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd, Loma and Usyk all have just one serious flaw - lack of punching power. If they had 7-8 of 10 punching power, with their skills they would've KO'd practically everybody.
     
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  13. Bokaj

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    His low right also made him very inviting to left hooks. With a proper guard, I don't think he would have lost a fight before Spinks.
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Henry Cooper exploited it too. That flaw enabled Cooper to connect with numerous hard, flush punches that he shouldn't have been able to land.
     
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  15. Eddie Ezzard

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    They probably have got power but they don't sit down on their punches as much as they could. If they went for power they'd have to lose some of the movement and defence that makes them stand out. IMO they sacrifice power in lieu of the movement. Ali did the same.

    To combine that kind of movement and still get power takes a truly exceptional talent (not that the others arent). In my lifetime you need look no further than Roy Jones Jr and Naseem Hamed although their level of opposition might flatter them. But in terms of what they did to who was in front of them, they had the rare combination of speed, movement and power.
     
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