Usyk vs Joshua - Who wins and how after tonights performance?

He can , but there’s no way he will get decision in UK. Juiceshua lost 3 fights in olympics and still “won” gold.
He was getting outboxed by povetkin, but was ahead on judges cards.
British cooking at it’s best

 

Wow you must be a very close friend of Usyk? Hows your Ukranian?

Or maybe his trainer in disguise? How could you possibly know how Usyk fights at 220... educated guess? You have no clue.

Chin tested against who? The light punching Gassiev?

Joshua maybe aint light on his feet like Usyk ..but he can definitely throw fast and counter fast. He will catch Usyk and when he does it will be lights outs immediately.

So apparently Joshua doesn't have combinations? What a joke... you need glasses. He has some of the best, crisp, accurate combinations in the division.
It's how he finishes he's opponents... I could put a higlight reel together as proof but you don't sound like a guy who accepts truth.

 

Stating that AJ was outboxed like he somewhow didnt belong in that ring with POV is stretching real far. I can accept it being even.

And Povetkin was always going to lose anyway... if the KO didn't come in the seventh it would have come anytime after that as we have seen from previous AJ fights from opponents who want to stand and trade.

How many variables, how many cats do we need to feed to make the conditions just perfect for Povetkin to have won?

Why must you stretch soooooo far to have AJ lose? AJ won comfortably..
it was a clean knockdown followed by another clean stoppage to the point where POVs boxing trainer (a professional teacher of boxing who sits.on the opposite side of the spectrum to an armchair boxing opinionater) was jumping up and down to wave it off.

AJ took some punishment but he soaked alllllll those3le desperate 110% Povetkin power shots and still kept coming.

You will not die a happy man as long as AJ is still champion will you ..

Me? I just accept the truth that AJ won the fight.

AJ is a beast.

 

Ask Joe Joyce what Usyk can do to a 6ft 6" heavy

 

What about the jab and hooks that are constantly gonna be pinging off AJs head as Usyk pivots off? that's not gonna slow him down? a 200lb+man with 11Ko's in 16 hits plenty hard enough to deter someone.

 

O.K. suppose that Usyk can outbox AJ like Povetkin did but then boom......and he finds himself laying on the the canvas after that. What then? Can he take AJ's best shot?

 

No these haters are just chatting crap and trolling, they can't even put their money where their mouth is!

Most of the AJ haters on this board are making statements they themselves don't believe but because it is an open forum people can troll to hide their bitterness and hate!

AJ knocks out Usyk if they ever fought if you believe otherwise write your name down and I'll chase you for a bet when the time comes!

 

When someone like Briedis lands over 30% of his shots and over 30% of his power punches, you have to wonder how tight Usyk's defence is. I've stated prior that he's not the hardest person to find, so against a MUCH bigger guy with a good height and reach advantage who also knows how to place his shots, it's not going to end pretty. Usyk will need one hell of a chin to last 12 against Joshua or any reasonably accurate big punching heavy. The Usyk fanboyism on here has reached new heights of delusion.

 

Plenty hard to deter a 200lb man, but we're not talking about sub 6'6 240+ lb men are we? Joshua has a massive size and power advantage and worse for his opponents, he knows how to land it against quality opposition. Usyk if this fight ever gets made is going to sleep before the final bell, whether ahead on the cards or not, he's getting tagged and knocked out.

 

so did Joe Joyce. I can't see it personally, Usyk has been hit by big mens his whole career, am and pro, and he's barely even been rocked

 

I'm guessing that's in the amateurs though and Joe Joyce I don't remotely rate as a decent prospect let alone a world class heavyweight. Either way, I can respect the position that people feel he stands a chance or will win etc, but personally, I just can't see it. Good big guy beats a good little guy. Okay, Usyk isn't small by any stretch, but he's not a HW, at least not yet. Joshua has always been a HW, but more than that, a super heavyweight.

 

yes, it was mate.

As can i, i can understand that people think AJ wins, but i just can't see Usyk "going to sleep". The fact that AJ is so big though is going to work against him imo. No doubt, he'll (AJ) come in lighter for that fight, but i don't think he can get light enough to be able to keep up with Usyk's constant moving and punching, without his muscles fatiguing, before he gets to Usyk.

 

I can see that perspective too, his movement will cause him issues no doubt, because Parker who doesn't move as well caused him issues. I do however think the way fights are judged, if Usyk is backing up the entire fight and throwing 800-900 punches with 500+ being jabs, I think he has his work cut out to get a decision and if there's any risk that team Joshua think he's losing, then I don't think Joshua will be too timid to simply just walk through his shots to land his own. People talk about Joshua's chin, but for me he's been hurt in only two fights. Whyte hurt him, but not enough to cause a KD and Joshua clearly had presence of mind to easily weather the onslaught. Wlad, yeah, he was BADLY hurt, but showed tremendous recovery powers and grit.

I know people will say Povetkin hurt him in round one, I don't agree. I thought he just got clocked with 3 superb shots which physically moved him, but his eyes were clear and his legs were solid. He felt it for sure, but I don't think he was ever in any danger of going down at any point in that fight. I think his chin is more than solid, I think his issue has been stamina and pacing himself.

 

Good point on getting a decision, it will be tough to get one anyway, as inevitably that fight will be in the UK if it happens. i know Usyk has boxed away from home in the WBSS, but the judging throughout that whole torunament tended to be very good, but he will have to work extra hard in UK to get the decision, which could cause more openings than he usually allows.

i used to think the exact same r.e his chin, that it was more of a stamina issue, as he took some hellacious bombs from Wlad before going down. But although, i don't think he was hurt by Povetkin, at least nowhere on the level of the Whyte/Klitschko, he was definitely stunned momentarily, and he didn't look too sturdy whenever Povetkin landed flush on him. Either way, i really hope it happens, will be a brilliant clash of styles

 

I personally don't think that Usyk will fight AJ next after he successfully defends his Undisputed world CW Championship belts. That's gonna be like commiting a suicide. He needs a few warm-up fights at the HW Division.