Too much size discrepancy at heavyweight

There is not enough talent to make a 225 pounds and over division, and it would really hurt the history of the sport.

So I say leave it alone. I think the size of the fighters being 6'4" to 6'9" tall is the new normal, but truthful I don't see the top talents ranging from 6-10" tall to 7 feet or taller becoming a reality in the next 30 years.

 

I don’t hope for another division, but this argument is valid if ever an argument was valid. Why do you think we have weight classes in the first place? Why do we hope that some of our favourite fighter don’t go up in weight to much, where they’ll clearly have to much of a disadvantage?

If two guys of similar boxing ability square off, but one of them is significantly bigger than the other it can quickly become a mismatch.

 

It is amazing to me how long and vehement these arguments get without anyone ever taking the initiative to learn even the basics of kinesiology.

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That was a stinker indeed. But both Chagaev and Holyfield showed how it's done properly though.

Many boxingfans care about the division's history and legacy though.

Not saying you are, as the second alinea is for others in the thread that do.

Like mentioned, this was for the thread in general, so your input was taken into account as much as others.

Yes I did.

 

This. No excuses. Guys just as big or bigger were always around and the smaller guys found ways to win because they were in excellent shape. Most of those heights are inflated by 2-3 inches anyway with the most obvious are Fury being 6'9" when he's 6'7" at most and Luis Ortiz, who ins't an inch over 6'2".

Even Atlas said that Povetkin in his prime hated road work and never was willing to come in tip top shape. I don't think Povetkin ever realized his true potential. It also doesn't help that Povetkin wasted two prime years in both 2016 and 2017 with failed test. Luis Ortiz also put himself out of the championship picture for a good 1-2 years in his prime due to failed test as well. Takam was never championship material to begin with and Parker was very lucky to have a title just like Martin was.

 

Povetkin was never good enough to reign, he only really took off once he started juicing. He is a skilled fighter but never had the athleticism to pull off his style consistently.

 

This. Unfortunately your most likely right. I always try to give fighters the benefit of the doubt, but even if Povetkin did get in tip top shape he still most likely loses to Wlad and Wilder and Joshua would most likely always find the fight ending punch on him.

 

Solution: move up cruiserweight limit to 210 to weed out small heavies.

 

Yeah just the size difference, Wlad as dirty as he was put the blue print out there on how to beat Povetkin using size.

 

Yeah but that means you may have to put the LHW up to 185 or else someone who can’t make 175 now has to deal with a 35 lb gap. If they are naturally 190 they will be seriously out sized with the rest of the CWs.

 

If you're going to mainly reply to the 'thread/other posters in general', don't bother quoting my posts.

The fact Chag and Holy scraped by whilst being massively outsized by inferior talent just emphasizes my point.

Whether others care for the history of the division is of no relevance to my argument that HW sees weight disparities that other divisions/match-ups do not. The weight discrepancies at HW can be rectified somewhat by the measures I suggested. You've clouded things a bit and added nothing to the debate as far as I see but cheers for replying.