[1964 Boxing Illustrated] Marty Marshall: Liston doesn't hit harder than Bob Satterfield

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Excerpt from "The Night I Beat Sonny Liston," by Marty Marshall as told to Larry Gustin, from the January 1964 Boxing Illustrated, p.25:

    "Our third and last meeting, in Pittsburgh, was a very tough fight. Liston was supposed to fight Harold Johnson, but Johnson pulled out. With six days' notice, the promoters asked me to fill in. This time Al DeNapoli said nothing doing. He and I are closer than most fighters and managers because Al is my trainer, too. Although I wasn't in top form, I had been working in the gym, and I really wanted to fight Liston again. My purse was increased and I finally talked Al into okaying the fight.

    Liston won the decision and I won't dispute it. [...] When it was over, he stopped into my dressing room and said, "You had me again, in the seventh." He was rubbing his jaw where I had nailed him.

    I told him that I wasn't top shape for this fight.

    "Well, I'd hate to fight you against when you're in top condition--like you were the first time," Sonny grinned.

    People are always asking me if I really think I can still beat Liston. I tell them yes, and I truly mean it. So do my managers, DeNapoli and Lou Markowitz. It's hard for me to get fights because my style is so unorthodox. But I'm in good shape, Ive been training in the gym and I'm heavier and stronger now.
    Too many fighters today have no idea how to punch--and that includes the rated fellows. They swing their arms too much. My punches don't travel far. I keep my left out and rigid and move in with my body. That way I don't get tired swinging and all my weight is behind every punch.

    If I were to fight Liston today--and I have that ambition--I wouldn't change my style. I'd circle, move away from his right and keep him busy. He'd be too busy worrying about me hitting him to launch an attack. I'd also keep feinting to make him throw that right. He'd miss every time. There's a myth going around that Liston has exceptionally fast hands. His hands are no faster than those of the average heavyweight.

    Keeping the pressure on is important, and not every fighter can do it. A guy like Willie Pastrano is a busy fighter, but he wouldn't bother Liston because Sonny wouldn't care if Willie hit him. Against me, he'd be plenty worried because he knows I can hurt him. I hurt him in all three of our fights.

    Who besides me has a chance against Liston? This might surprise you, but maybe Cassius Clay. Not the Clay you've seen on television, however, but a Clay who will have to vastly change his style and correct some fatal habits.
    For instance, Clay is always pulling back and if he does that against Sonny, he'll get killed. He'll have to learn to slip punches. I don't think that Clay can fight while moving backward, as all good fighters can.

    If I were to advise Clay, I'd tell him to keep his hands high and his left in Liston's face. I don't mean just jab it in there, but keep it rigid and always in his face. Then step in with it to punch hard. Move in with body and feet for full power. That left shouldn't travel far, but it should always be in his face. He should keep moving and keep Liston busy. He should learn to feint well and never, never cover up. Because if Sonny can't hit your head, he can hurt you bad any place else.

    If you ask me if Liston is the hardest puncher I have ever fought, I'll tell you that he punches no harder than Bob Satterfield, who I knocked out in two rounds the same year I beat Liston...."
     
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  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for posting this up. I remember when this article came out. Appears "Clay" used most of the "Marty Marshall" Plan to beat Liston in the First Title Fight.
     
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  3. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Hi Kev, I do know one thing. Satterfield was an absolutely dynamite puncher. Clay-Ali did use his left as a measuring stick against Liston and I reckon he bent more at the waist and slipped the jab better in that fight than he did ever again in his career ( he also did it versus Big Ernie T ).

    As a last comment, Marty Marshall could fight.
     
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  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Woah man, be careful, you might be implying that size isn't the only thing to punch power
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Nobody in the history of this forum has ever implied otherwise.

    But for the record, I disagree with Marshall. I believe that Liston hit harder than Bob Satterfield.
     
  6. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Hi Kev, I reckon comparing Satterfield and Liston's power is a lot like Chuvalo's analogy regarding Frazier and Foreman.

    Satterfield is the sports car running you over at a high speed while Liston is the large semi running you over at a lower speed.
     
  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I think Liston hit harder than Satterfield also

    You are sorely mistaken about the former though
     
  8. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    As far as weight goes, Satterfield would be a much bigger puncher than someone like Buster Mathis. Its not writ in stone obviously.

    Cheers.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Uh oh. Is this saying a 180 pounder hit harder than Liston
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    No, it isn't.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "I won't dispute it".lol Marshall didn't win a round in their 3 rd fight and ran away all night!
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    He talks some serious dribble. His 5 minutes of fame.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Well it seems like Marty Marshall was saying so. Marshall, BTW, lived in my hometown
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Ive often said that once you get to 180+ pounds, it starts to get murky about how much weight matters for punching power. Certainly when you get at 200+ pounds. I believe that Satterfield put Williams out cold
     
  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    The below is what he said. Keen to hear an explanation of how it translates into Marshall saying Satterfield hit harder than Liston.

    If you ask me if Liston is the hardest puncher I have ever fought, I'll tell you that he punches no harder than Bob Satterfield, who I knocked out in two rounds the same year I beat Liston...."