First-hand account of Marciano's diet and workout regimen (1952)

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    tl;dr: He ran 3-5 miles per day and ate plenty of food. His big workout apparently lasted around 90 minutes (from 3-4:30).


    from Harold Kaese, “In a Game That’s Noted for Its Punks, Phoneys, Rocky Stands for Class, Boston Globe (Sept. 20, 1952), p.7


    “[…] Marciano is satisfied if he has a few close friends and a pantry near him.

    He is eating all the way, although Al Colombo, a pal, thinks Rocky’s knife-and-fork exercises have been exaggerated.

    “He’s over-rated,” said Colombo, adding alertly, I mean as an eater, not a fighter.”

    Colombo’s revelation that Marciano does not eat eight lamb chops for breakfast but only two or three was sworn to by Alfred Renault, the camp’s chef. […]

    Marciano, who only skipped rope today, said he was not nervous, “only a little tense like I always am before a fight.” This he admitted, was his big opportunity and concluded, “I don’t intend to lose it.”

    Each day for a month, Marciano has got up at 7 a.m. He then has a cup of tea (sugar and lemon) and usually runs between three and five miles.

    At 8:30, it is a breakfast of fruit, cereal, two soft-boiled eggs, lamb chops, toast, and more tea.

    He walks and naps until noon, when he has some tea.

    Then he naps until his big workout at 3 p.m. After 4:30 he naps until dinner time at 5:30; after which he walks, plays ping pong, reads, or listens to the radio. At 8:30 he may have an apple or pear, and goes to bed.

    According to Reinault, the meat is usually steak or roast beef—rare. Lamb, veal, and a little chicken for variety. Baked potatoes, green vegetables, and plenty of salads with oil and vinegar dressing. Oh yes—tea.

    No Italian foods. No pork. No pastry. No ice cream.

    Reinault, who came to this country from Germany in 1923, also cooked here for Joey Maxim before the Robinson fight. The difference he said, was “Maxim had to lose weight, so he ate less and ran more than this fellow.”

    Marciano has not been training for a race. He wants to win only one letter against Walcott—in boxing, not track.”
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'm seeing some consistency here from actual reporters.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    What do you think Marciano`s build would have been like if he trained like AJ does now?
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I have no idea. I don't think AJ trains to put on mass though.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    Already see a glaring issue, Marciano drank milk for breakfast and dinner, not tea. And he used honey RELIGIOUSLY to sweeten tea, not sugar
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm not saying you're wrong, because a lot has been written by journalists down the years. Also, journalists are determined they understand something once they've witnessed it. Rocky, like everyone else, probably had some measure of variety in even a heavily constructed day.

    But the above is sourced and stated and comes from a nationally recognised journalist. Admittedly it's one who specialised in baseball, but he was a nationally known sports journalists.

    So 1) He's lying about the sugar 2) The OP is lying about the source 3) He got confused and made a mistake over what seems a reasonably simple matter 4) He had sugar in his tea.

    Which one you going for?
     
  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    So 2 workouts a day -- a run and an afternoon 90 minute workout with unspecified content. It indicates he did this every day for the last month.

    Somebody should collect all of these articles at the end to get a good overall picture of how he trained.

    Isn't there a compendium of historical and modern boxers' workouts published in book form? Wonder how this compares.
     
  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    Good question, I don't really know the answer. I was just pointing out what I saw wrong. Could be that the source lied, considering there's video proof of the milk one.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Could it be that he had milk on the day the video was taken and sugar in his tea the day(s) the journalist was visiting?
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, I think I have such a book but i'm pretty sure Rocky isn't in it.
     
  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't think he was in it. Might be interesting to dig up Ali, Tyson, etc. and see how their workouts compare to Marciano's.
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Fake media, right?!


    Saul Pett, “Rocky Marciano Spends Two Months Getting in Shape for Championship Fight," Messenger-Inquirer, Sept. 13, 1955, p.14


    “…Goldman explained the training camp routine.

    Rocky had awakened at 6:30 that morning; taken his road work for five or six miles; rested for half an hour; breakfasted on a concoction of cornflakes mixed with two raw eggs, blueberries and vitamin pills followed by two lamb chops and hot tea; taken a walk, then back to bed, skipping lunch, resting until workout time at 3:30.

    In the evening, he would dine in a bare, antiseptic kitchen, on soup, green salad and a couple of steaks, but nothing resembling the rich spaghetti and lasagna he loves.

    …]

    “It was not 3:30 and the screen door swung open. Marciano came out quietly, wearing training pants over his boxing tights and a white hood over his head.

    In the gum, Rocky stropped down, revealing short, clublike arms and legs as strong as oak stumps.

    And then for more than an hour, he pounded the heavy, 150-pound bag, worked rhythmically on the light bag, shadow-boxed along in a ring whose apron was draped in royal purple.”

    […]

    “Back in his sleeping porch Rocky exercised on a tilted board laid on the floor. His head resting on the lower end, he raised his torso without using his hands or raising his legs. This continued for more than 20 minutes.”
     
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  13. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    How and where do I find this?
     
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  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Register at newspapers.com and run some searches. You should be able to get a free 1-week trial period.
     
  15. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember reading that Alexis Arguello in the rematch with Pryor was said to be running 10 miles a day and that hehe train so hard he was overtrained and flat hence his poorer performance. There are limits to what a body can endure everyday and still perform at peak beyond a planned training regime for short periods to peak an athlete physically and mentally they will plateau and get flat....yeah their condition is good but they are in cruise control physically and mentally.

    This why the great trainers are with a fighter for awhile and know the conditioning to fighting timeline for particular fighters....conditioning and weight loss phase is not always in camp the camp is to fine tune the fighter for the fight.
     
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